Christians and Atheists in Communion — in Harmony, I Mean! Now What?

by John Shore on September 18, 2007 · 34 comments

I don’t think it’s going too far to say that my recent posts (“An Honest Question: Atheists, How Do You Process Your Guilt?” and “What the Atheists Taught Me“ ) have established utter peace and harmony between Christians and atheists around the world.

Isn’t it just the greatest thing? (Um … down there, in the comments section of “What the Atheists Taught Me.” Are you trying to embarass me?)

I think that what really turned the tide toward complete peace and harmony is when the atheists finally agreed that, unlike Christians, they shouldn’t be allowed to capitalize what they’re called. And that compromise, of course, led we Christians to eventually acquiesce to the atheists’ request that we stop throwing lit matches at them all the time.

Which of course facilitated the Full Belly Accord, in which both sides agreed that, in principal anyway, they like food.

Ah, peace. What a blessing. (Or “great thing”!) No more drive-by leafleting. No more crank phone calls at 3 a.m. (How many times have we Christians answered our ringing phones , heard a voice intoning, “Hello, this is God calling,” gasped back “Really?”, and heard, “No, moron! Grow up!” before the final click. And how many ruses have Christians devised to try and trick atheists to cranking up and keeping up the heat in their house. (A virus in the area you kill by sterilizing your air! And atheists are supposed to be such fans of science!)

Thank God/nobody that’s all behind us now. It was something I was definitely glad to get done.

I think that primarily we owe our newfound contentment with the status quo to my laptop. Before I had a laptop, I was forced to write in my office, which involves sitting up straight. Post-laptop, however, I write so slumped down on my couch that even right now I can’t swallow. I think this casual, relaxed position allows my consciousness to be freed up in a way that just can’t happen when I’m getting enough oxygen to my head.

Anyway, I’d like to congratulate everyone who helped to do so much to achieve peace between those who believe in Jesus Christ, and those who are going to hell don’t.  Ross, Calladus, Marcy, Kimberley, L Palm, Greta, Cragar, Thomas, Gary, the ever-excellent Hjordes … all of you — and so many more I can’t mention because it would involve more scrolling and besides my vision growing blurry my hands are starting to go numb — deserve a share in the spotlight. In fact, each and every one of you should go, right now, and hold your face close to a brightly glowing light bulb. Remove a shade if you have to. You deserve it.

I’ll do the same!

And after we’ve had our moment in the light, let’s all meet again right back here again, shall we, and get to work solving that darn Christian-Muslim problem? Why not! We can do it! World peace is within our grasp!

And we’ll get started making it, just as soon as the burn spot in our vision fades away.

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L Palm September 20, 2007 at 11:09 am

woohoo John…go get ‘em

Some one needed to remind people this is not a debate forum…it’s a comment posting area where those who love, admire and adore John Shore and his witty repertory can come and read, laugh and share.

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ric booth September 20, 2007 at 11:08 am

Jesse and Lazy,

You are asking the wrong question(s). That question cannot be answered. Even speculatively. There are speculative questions for which there is no credible response.

BTW Lazy, You were surprise at my lack of interest in debating creation vs evolution (being the logical/mathematical type) a few days back. I posted my explanation on my blog earlier today.

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Jesse September 20, 2007 at 9:52 am

John, by getting hung up on the time travel aspect, it seems clear to me that you don’t wish to answer it, which is OK. Of course it’s possible to answer. Of course it would be a speculative answer to a speculative question, but it’s one that you should be able to answer honestly. I think that in a philisophical / religious discussion like this, we should be willing to engage in a little speculation.

lazy – What if we are wrong God exists and Jesus also – I have to agree here that if we are wrong on this point, then we’re certainly doomed to hell. And of course, there’s a possibility, however remote, that we could be wrong, along with billions of other hindus, muslims, scientologists, and others throughout history who either chose not to believe in the right god or never had the opportunity. Unfortunately I have no way of verifying which, if any of these religions is the one true one, so picking any one seems to offer only a marginally higher chance of salvation than not believing in any at all (and provides additional benefits here on earth, imo).

But that’s not really the precise counterpart to my question for John, which is this: What if you were, while alive and able to still decide one way or another, presented with irrefutable proof of God’s existence? I really can’t imagine what this would be, and yes it is HIGHLY speculative, but presumably if I did receive such proof, I’d convert. I’d start believing. It wouldn’t be a choice, I suppose I’d have to believe because I would just know that a god existed. I suppose that I would have to ignore all the carefully reasoned arguments against the likelihood of any particular God’s existence.

On another note, I don’t think I’ve ever really really taken that thought seriously, and it actually helps me understand the mind of the faithful a lot better than I did previously.

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John Shore September 20, 2007 at 9:10 am

Okay, one more time: It’s not that I don’t “wish” to answer that question. It’s that, as I’ve said now two or three times, it’s not POSSIBLE to answer that question. Explaining why that’s true WAS my answer.

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