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		<title>By: ric booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ric booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 15:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Berkley Standard Distribution (BSD) from many, many years ago. ... a flavor of Unix. I acquired FreeBSD from http://www.freebsd.org/ and installed in on an old P3 just for fun. I run a web and ftp server on it and it runs without a hitch for weeks on end without reboot or lockup. There are other cult flavors like Ubuntu which I may try on yet another p3 box. I&#039;m a geek, just ask my kids.

My pastor is a little concerned for me since the mascot for FreeBSD is a little red demon but I think he&#039;s cute (not my pastor, the demon). Besides Gates and Jobs are not exactly fooling anyone with their smiles and good deeds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Berkley Standard Distribution (BSD) from many, many years ago. &#8230; a flavor of Unix. I acquired FreeBSD from <a href="http://www.freebsd.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.freebsd.org/</a> and installed in on an old P3 just for fun. I run a web and ftp server on it and it runs without a hitch for weeks on end without reboot or lockup. There are other cult flavors like Ubuntu which I may try on yet another p3 box. I&#8217;m a geek, just ask my kids.</p>
<p>My pastor is a little concerned for me since the mascot for FreeBSD is a little red demon but I think he&#8217;s cute (not my pastor, the demon). Besides Gates and Jobs are not exactly fooling anyone with their smiles and good deeds.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:55:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric: TOTALLY FUNNY!! (What&#039;s BSD? Sounds ... well, kind of porny, actually. I would imagine.) </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric: TOTALLY FUNNY!! (What&#039;s BSD? Sounds &#8230; well, kind of porny, actually. I would imagine.)</p>
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		<title>By: ric booth</title>
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		<dc:creator>ric booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to hear that Alpay. Mac - Win - Whatev. I&#039;ve been running BSD lately because, well... its ahhh... FREE. Sort of the opposite end of the spectrum.  My wife says, &quot;But no one else in the house will know how to use it.&quot; ... I don&#039;t understand her point. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear that Alpay. Mac &#8211; Win &#8211; Whatev. I&#039;ve been running BSD lately because, well&#8230; its ahhh&#8230; FREE. Sort of the opposite end of the spectrum.  My wife says, &quot;But no one else in the house will know how to use it.&quot; &#8230; I don&#039;t understand her point.</p>
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		<title>By: Alpay Erturkmen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alpay Erturkmen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 05:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to #27, Ric, 
 
I am not upset. What I am just saying is there is nothing wrong with being hip. It is just the same as being not hip. However Macs have nothing to do with being hip. It is just a product and nobody should be staying away from them just because they market their product that way. 
 
Go Apple :P 
 
Cheers, 
Alpay </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to #27, Ric,</p>
<p>I am not upset. What I am just saying is there is nothing wrong with being hip. It is just the same as being not hip. However Macs have nothing to do with being hip. It is just a product and nobody should be staying away from them just because they market their product that way.</p>
<p>Go Apple <img src='http://johnshore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Alpay</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>eh...apple&#039;s okay. I use windows at work and my mac at home and school. I&#039;d say that things go more smoothly on a mac but i&#039;m not even sure if that&#039;s true. It may be because I use a mac significantly more than I use Windows. 
 
Call me superficial...but the thing I like most about using a mac is the design. The actual computer/product and how stuff looks in the programs and stuff you&#039;re using. As far as functionality? I&#039;m equally functional on a mac or pc. I guess I&#039;m just that good. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>eh&#8230;apple&#039;s okay. I use windows at work and my mac at home and school. I&#039;d say that things go more smoothly on a mac but i&#039;m not even sure if that&#039;s true. It may be because I use a mac significantly more than I use Windows.</p>
<p>Call me superficial&#8230;but the thing I like most about using a mac is the design. The actual computer/product and how stuff looks in the programs and stuff you&#039;re using. As far as functionality? I&#039;m equally functional on a mac or pc. I guess I&#039;m just that good.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, turning 50, cranky, an ancient cell phone, no tv... man I feel akin to ya. Oh! but you forgot the receeding hairline, aching body parts, and dweebie kids who look to young to be our of the house let alone work in in dweebie high tech heaven. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, turning 50, cranky, an ancient cell phone, no tv&#8230; man I feel akin to ya. Oh! but you forgot the receeding hairline, aching body parts, and dweebie kids who look to young to be our of the house let alone work in in dweebie high tech heaven.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cow! That IS one mighty strong case for Apple and an iPhone. Dang, dude. I think you just changed my mind. Who can argue with any of what you&#039;ve just said??? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cow! That IS one mighty strong case for Apple and an iPhone. Dang, dude. I think you just changed my mind. Who can argue with any of what you&#039;ve just said???</p>
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		<title>By: jbelkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbelkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, you might not need an iphone. The iphone is when you&#039;re out on the road and you want full access to everything and unlike other cell phones that promises you an armload of features but doesn&#039;t actually work very well, the iphone delivers 99% of what it promises. 
 
You&#039;re standing in from of Walgreen&#039;s and wondering where the nearest Italian restaurant is - type in Italian restaurant and the city you want to search - in :30 seconds, you have a listing with pins on a google. click on one. If they have a website, tap again on the link - if only a phone, tap on the phone and you can call them. Directions? Just tap the directions button and a map appears based on its FREE GPS-like feature. 
 
SAme with stocks, weather, camera, photo, etc ... not only does it sync with your computer (mac or PC), it BACKS EVERYTHING UP! 
 
Photos or the web, use your fingers to expand the screen! 
 
Rent movies or add your own movies. Email on the go - you&#039;re standing in front of Michaels&#039; waiting on the wife, check your email. 
 
As for Apple pricing - yes, their $1,500 is worth so much more than a Vista laptop in VALUE plus less depreciation. Look up a two year Mac on ebay and look at a 2 year old PC and you can see the used prices says it all. You will find a 2-year old used mac seling for only a few hundred less whiile good luck giving away a 2-year old PC. 
 
You also save $100 a year - you do NOT need any virus or spyware apps. The machine needs no intial cleaning of crapware and in any case, it&#039;s probably been about 5 years since it last crashed. Apps will freeze infrequently but you can quit out with one keystroke combo and the other apps are all fine. You also get ilife (worth thousands if you want to edit videos and/or make music). 
(itunes is of course free and iphoto is like pcasa) 
 
There&#039;s nothing wrong with advertising when it&#039;s the truth. Adsvertising is only annoying when it tries to imply that if you drink this beer, you will be surrounded women in bikini&#039;s (like they would drink watered down beer :-) )  
 
What&#039;s even more amazing. If you live near an Apple store, they will actually help you to reolve problems - no trying to claim it&#039;s the OS or the other side claiming it&#039;s the hardware. You have a place to go to to ask questions - no matter how small or just lug in your computer and they will not only look at it FOR FREE but try to resolve it for FREE. They also have free classes and you can play with machines for as long as you want - no questions asked, no hard sell. 
 
AND it even runs Vista if you want it to - so buy a mini, just plug in yiour current keyboard and monitor - you have a machine that runs OSX, Vista, Linux &amp; Unix. 
 
Though it might satisfy your speeds needs so upgrade to an iMac. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, you might not need an iphone. The iphone is when you&#039;re out on the road and you want full access to everything and unlike other cell phones that promises you an armload of features but doesn&#039;t actually work very well, the iphone delivers 99% of what it promises.</p>
<p>You&#039;re standing in from of Walgreen&#039;s and wondering where the nearest Italian restaurant is &#8211; type in Italian restaurant and the city you want to search &#8211; in :30 seconds, you have a listing with pins on a google. click on one. If they have a website, tap again on the link &#8211; if only a phone, tap on the phone and you can call them. Directions? Just tap the directions button and a map appears based on its FREE GPS-like feature.</p>
<p>SAme with stocks, weather, camera, photo, etc &#8230; not only does it sync with your computer (mac or PC), it BACKS EVERYTHING UP!</p>
<p>Photos or the web, use your fingers to expand the screen!</p>
<p>Rent movies or add your own movies. Email on the go &#8211; you&#039;re standing in front of Michaels&#039; waiting on the wife, check your email.</p>
<p>As for Apple pricing &#8211; yes, their $1,500 is worth so much more than a Vista laptop in VALUE plus less depreciation. Look up a two year Mac on ebay and look at a 2 year old PC and you can see the used prices says it all. You will find a 2-year old used mac seling for only a few hundred less whiile good luck giving away a 2-year old PC.</p>
<p>You also save $100 a year &#8211; you do NOT need any virus or spyware apps. The machine needs no intial cleaning of crapware and in any case, it&#039;s probably been about 5 years since it last crashed. Apps will freeze infrequently but you can quit out with one keystroke combo and the other apps are all fine. You also get ilife (worth thousands if you want to edit videos and/or make music).</p>
<p>(itunes is of course free and iphoto is like pcasa)</p>
<p>There&#039;s nothing wrong with advertising when it&#039;s the truth. Adsvertising is only annoying when it tries to imply that if you drink this beer, you will be surrounded women in bikini&#039;s (like they would drink watered down beer <img src='http://johnshore.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ) </p>
<p>What&#039;s even more amazing. If you live near an Apple store, they will actually help you to reolve problems &#8211; no trying to claim it&#039;s the OS or the other side claiming it&#039;s the hardware. You have a place to go to to ask questions &#8211; no matter how small or just lug in your computer and they will not only look at it FOR FREE but try to resolve it for FREE. They also have free classes and you can play with machines for as long as you want &#8211; no questions asked, no hard sell.</p>
<p>AND it even runs Vista if you want it to &#8211; so buy a mini, just plug in yiour current keyboard and monitor &#8211; you have a machine that runs OSX, Vista, Linux &amp; Unix.</p>
<p>Though it might satisfy your speeds needs so upgrade to an iMac.</p>
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		<title>By: John Shore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, real quick, to Micheal Joyce (#25): You&#039;re totally right about the Great Joys of new communications technology. I basically communicate with others for a living, so, believe me, I&#039;m Pro New Communications Gadgets. My problem is that I KNOW I&#039;ll never figure out how to use, like, the iPhone. I know it&#039;ll come with a manual the size of a novel. 
 
Then again, so what? It&#039;ll be just like all that kind of stuff--just like my computer, actually, where I&#039;ll soon enough learn how to do the stuff I WANT to do, and leave the rest. 
 
Man. My cell phone IS 12 years old. I WOULD take an absurd pleasure in being able to check my emails anywhere. I am a music freak. 
 
Man. Maybe I should buy an iPhone!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, real quick, to Micheal Joyce (#25): You&#039;re totally right about the Great Joys of new communications technology. I basically communicate with others for a living, so, believe me, I&#039;m Pro New Communications Gadgets. My problem is that I KNOW I&#039;ll never figure out how to use, like, the iPhone. I know it&#039;ll come with a manual the size of a novel.</p>
<p>Then again, so what? It&#039;ll be just like all that kind of stuff&#8211;just like my computer, actually, where I&#039;ll soon enough learn how to do the stuff I WANT to do, and leave the rest.</p>
<p>Man. My cell phone IS 12 years old. I WOULD take an absurd pleasure in being able to check my emails anywhere. I am a music freak.</p>
<p>Man. Maybe I should buy an iPhone!!!</p>
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		<title>By: John Shore</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Washed (#22): Sadly, I was aware of the fact that crank is timeless. I know I&#039;ve been a Major Dick since at least 1960. But thanks for the pan-generational affirmation. You rock. 
 
Penlee (#23): I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re too techno-advanced for me. What does your ...&quot;I downloaded your physog onto my ministry clips&quot; MEAN? What is my &quot;physog&quot;?  
 
To commenters 24, 25, 26: Yeah, actually, I LIKE Apples. I never actually talked about the Apple products, but only a bit about shopping at an Apple store. Apple products ARE expensive, but I still dig their whole line. I worked in publishing forever, where Macs are ubiquitous, and I liked them just fine. The relative lack of viruses with Macs is a huge positive, and over time I&#039;ve come to have a lot of resentment over the way Microsoft is forever trying so desperately to basically reach inside my head and co-opt my brain for marketing purposes. I&#039;m about ready to ditch Microsoft and PC Land for the same reason I ditched my TV: I hate being advertised at. 
 
But no, I&#039;ve got nothing against Apples. I only have something against paying $2500 dollars for a laptop that, as far as I can tell, doesn&#039;t do anything a $1,000 laptop does. But I&#039;d sure BUY that $2500 dollar MacLap if I had the money. But we&#039;re trying to save for a house. Money&#039;s the bottom line, for me, on the Mac vs. PC &quot;debate.&quot; I&#039;ve got no particular love for Microsoft, that&#039;s for dang sure. I have Vista, which I HAD to get on my the Dell laptop I bought a year ago, and it bites like Jaws. 
 
Wow. That was an obnoxiously long comment on my part. Sorry. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Washed (#22): Sadly, I was aware of the fact that crank is timeless. I know I&#039;ve been a Major Dick since at least 1960. But thanks for the pan-generational affirmation. You rock.</p>
<p>Penlee (#23): I&#039;m afraid you&#039;re too techno-advanced for me. What does your &#8230;&quot;I downloaded your physog onto my ministry clips&quot; MEAN? What is my &quot;physog&quot;? </p>
<p>To commenters 24, 25, 26: Yeah, actually, I LIKE Apples. I never actually talked about the Apple products, but only a bit about shopping at an Apple store. Apple products ARE expensive, but I still dig their whole line. I worked in publishing forever, where Macs are ubiquitous, and I liked them just fine. The relative lack of viruses with Macs is a huge positive, and over time I&#039;ve come to have a lot of resentment over the way Microsoft is forever trying so desperately to basically reach inside my head and co-opt my brain for marketing purposes. I&#039;m about ready to ditch Microsoft and PC Land for the same reason I ditched my TV: I hate being advertised at.</p>
<p>But no, I&#039;ve got nothing against Apples. I only have something against paying $2500 dollars for a laptop that, as far as I can tell, doesn&#039;t do anything a $1,000 laptop does. But I&#039;d sure BUY that $2500 dollar MacLap if I had the money. But we&#039;re trying to save for a house. Money&#039;s the bottom line, for me, on the Mac vs. PC &quot;debate.&quot; I&#039;ve got no particular love for Microsoft, that&#039;s for dang sure. I have Vista, which I HAD to get on my the Dell laptop I bought a year ago, and it bites like Jaws.</p>
<p>Wow. That was an obnoxiously long comment on my part. Sorry.</p>
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