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		<title>By: Linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 17:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is one of the best comments I have ever read! I know that it was written in 2008, but I would like your permission to share the comment in my local freethinkers group. We have a few liberal Christians in the group, and I would like to hear their responses to what you have written. I couldn&#039;t agree more with what you&#039;ve said!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is one of the best comments I have ever read! I know that it was written in 2008, but I would like your permission to share the comment in my local freethinkers group. We have a few liberal Christians in the group, and I would like to hear their responses to what you have written. I couldn&#8217;t agree more with what you&#8217;ve said!!</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/11/how-i-broke-my-lesbian-friends-heart/comment-page-2/#comment-45537</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, what a sweet note to send me. Thank you very much for this. I&#039;m sure you and your dad will make it through this bit of adjustment just fine. Of course he&#039;s welcomed to write me directly if he&#039;d like. Thanks again for this love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, what a sweet note to send me. Thank you very much for this. I&#8217;m sure you and your dad will make it through this bit of adjustment just fine. Of course he&#8217;s welcomed to write me directly if he&#8217;d like. Thanks again for this love.</p>
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		<title>By: Livinginturmoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livinginturmoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi. i just wanna say that you&#039;ve been helping my dad sort through a lot since i came out to him, and me as well. it&#039;s hard to hold on to my faith in today&#039;s church, and in the whole &quot;gay culture&quot; just like it must be hard trying to come to terms with having a lesbian daughter (even if you are accepting and supportive.) 
so! all that to say thank you, keep it up and rock on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi. i just wanna say that you&#8217;ve been helping my dad sort through a lot since i came out to him, and me as well. it&#8217;s hard to hold on to my faith in today&#8217;s church, and in the whole &#8220;gay culture&#8221; just like it must be hard trying to come to terms with having a lesbian daughter (even if you are accepting and supportive.)<br />
so! all that to say thank you, keep it up and rock on.</p>
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		<title>By: Livinginturmoil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Livinginturmoil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Jan 2011 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi. i just wanna say that you&#039;ve been helping my dad sort through a lot since i came out to him, and me as well. it&#039;s hard to hold on to my faith in today&#039;s church, and in the whole &quot;gay culture&quot; just like it must be hard trying to come to terms with having a lesbian daughter (even if you are accepting and supportive.) 
so! all that to say thank you, keep it up and rock on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi. i just wanna say that you&#8217;ve been helping my dad sort through a lot since i came out to him, and me as well. it&#8217;s hard to hold on to my faith in today&#8217;s church, and in the whole &#8220;gay culture&#8221; just like it must be hard trying to come to terms with having a lesbian daughter (even if you are accepting and supportive.)<br />
so! all that to say thank you, keep it up and rock on.</p>
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		<title>By: Latoya</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/11/how-i-broke-my-lesbian-friends-heart/comment-page-2/#comment-10047</link>
		<dc:creator>Latoya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 07:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey John, 
Thought i should have made a comment on this blog. 
 
This &#039;hate&#039; of lesbians and gays is by far worse in Jamaica than it is in the USA. We have an extremely homophobic culture. They even beat gays here (certainly its against the law to beat them but ppl still do it and they are not punished for it). It is so entrenched in our culture that it seems the christians are also blinded by the general reaction to a gay person. I beleive that having intercourse with someone of the same sex is a sin, but we dont beat and kill people for fornication and adultery. and in any case two wrongs dont make a right, and murder is definitley a wrong. 
 
I pray that persons who are gay will be seek and receive deliverance, but christians should be a source of help, not a threat. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey John,</p>
<p>Thought i should have made a comment on this blog.</p>
<p>This &#039;hate&#039; of lesbians and gays is by far worse in Jamaica than it is in the USA. We have an extremely homophobic culture. They even beat gays here (certainly its against the law to beat them but ppl still do it and they are not punished for it). It is so entrenched in our culture that it seems the christians are also blinded by the general reaction to a gay person. I beleive that having intercourse with someone of the same sex is a sin, but we dont beat and kill people for fornication and adultery. and in any case two wrongs dont make a right, and murder is definitley a wrong.</p>
<p>I pray that persons who are gay will be seek and receive deliverance, but christians should be a source of help, not a threat.</p>
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		<title>By: Billy</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/11/how-i-broke-my-lesbian-friends-heart/comment-page-2/#comment-10044</link>
		<dc:creator>Billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 14:47:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m posting this after the stunning passing of Proposition 8 in California, which as far as I&#039;m concerned proves what Joan was saying. That enough Christians have enough intolerance of gays to be able to deny us our constitutional rights. Rights that should be guaranteed, and not able to be taken way by the &#039;will of the people&#039;. So good luck with all your righteousness and prayer, I&#039;ll stick with the reality of being gay and imperfect. I don&#039;t hate all christians but I sure am angry with a whole bunch of them. In fact I&#039;m angry with any of them that voted Yes on Prop 8 to deny me the same rights they enjoy. And imagine how it must feel to be gay in Arkansas right now, hoping to adopt a child. Have a nice freakin&#039; day. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m posting this after the stunning passing of Proposition 8 in California, which as far as I&#039;m concerned proves what Joan was saying. That enough Christians have enough intolerance of gays to be able to deny us our constitutional rights. Rights that should be guaranteed, and not able to be taken way by the &#039;will of the people&#039;. So good luck with all your righteousness and prayer, I&#039;ll stick with the reality of being gay and imperfect. I don&#039;t hate all christians but I sure am angry with a whole bunch of them. In fact I&#039;m angry with any of them that voted Yes on Prop 8 to deny me the same rights they enjoy. And imagine how it must feel to be gay in Arkansas right now, hoping to adopt a child. Have a nice freakin&#039; day.</p>
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		<title>By: arlywn</title>
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		<dc:creator>arlywn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 13:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, dont hate all christians- John&#039;s pretty nice. A little out there, but good intentions. And... Anita is okay. (She&#039;s a little out there too, but dont tell her) lol And there&#039;s some more, but I cant remember them. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, dont hate all christians- John&#039;s pretty nice. A little out there, but good intentions. And&#8230; Anita is okay. (She&#039;s a little out there too, but dont tell her) lol And there&#039;s some more, but I cant remember them.</p>
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		<title>By: secchan</title>
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		<dc:creator>secchan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 05:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After reading these posts, I think I&#039;ve come to hate &#039;Christians&#039;. I&#039;m Christian, and I&#039;m gay, and reading what other Christians say about gays being &#039;detestable&#039;...it makes me sick and angry. 
Christians these days aren&#039;t &#039;Christ-like&#039; at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After reading these posts, I think I&#8217;ve come to hate &#8216;Christians&#8217;. I&#8217;m Christian, and I&#8217;m gay, and reading what other Christians say about gays being &#8216;detestable&#8217;&#8230;it makes me sick and angry.<br />
Christians these days aren&#8217;t &#8216;Christ-like&#8217; at all.</p>
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		<title>By: anita</title>
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		<dc:creator>anita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 15:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know. I know. There&#039;s little point in saying this again having already said it way up at comment 2 but I&#039;m just going to throw it out into the universe anyway, and since I type around 100 words a minute it&#039;s no big time investment on my part. Through all the comments, of which I&#039;ve read all and appreciated most, we continue to refer to two categories of people; &lt;em&gt;Christians&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;gays and lesbians&lt;/em&gt; and while I appreciate the following comment won&#039;t be acceptable for some, I say it anyway because it&#039;s a reality. There are a vast number of people who&#039;ve chosen the Christian faith and happen to be gay and when we speak of &lt;em&gt;Christians&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;gays and lesbians&lt;/em&gt; as two separate groups we not only ignore those who stand in both locations but it implies that &lt;em&gt;gays and lesbians&lt;/em&gt; as an entire group are &lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; people without faith. Again I realize this will be argued by a few that these are mutually exclusive terms and a few others will argue that it&#039;s a nitpicky point but when you happen to believe in Jesus as your Savior and you&#039;re gay, it&#039;s no small point and neither is it mutually exclusive. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know. I know. There&#039;s little point in saying this again having already said it way up at comment 2 but I&#039;m just going to throw it out into the universe anyway, and since I type around 100 words a minute it&#039;s no big time investment on my part. Through all the comments, of which I&#039;ve read all and appreciated most, we continue to refer to two categories of people; <em>Christians</em> and <em>gays and lesbians</em> and while I appreciate the following comment won&#039;t be acceptable for some, I say it anyway because it&#039;s a reality. There are a vast number of people who&#039;ve chosen the Christian faith and happen to be gay and when we speak of <em>Christians</em> and <em>gays and lesbians</em> as two separate groups we not only ignore those who stand in both locations but it implies that <em>gays and lesbians</em> as an entire group are <strong>all</strong> people without faith. Again I realize this will be argued by a few that these are mutually exclusive terms and a few others will argue that it&#039;s a nitpicky point but when you happen to believe in Jesus as your Savior and you&#039;re gay, it&#039;s no small point and neither is it mutually exclusive.</p>
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		<title>By: Stef</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, John, I didn&#039;t know I was supposed to hate gays and lesbians either as a Christian. And, you know, I don&#039;t. I don&#039;t hate anyone for whatever lifestyle they live, because I know they didn&#039;t choose it. I have several gay and lesbian friends. So what, right? Just as I am colorblind when it comes to race (we aren&#039;t black or white or brown or red... we&#039;re the HUMAN race!), a person&#039;s sexual orientation, identity or whatever the heck it&#039;s called doesn&#039;t matter to me. What DOES matter to me is their worth as a person. Who am I to judge anyone? Of course, I&#039;m not perfect and when I find myself judging someone, I feel terrible about it, because that&#039;s not who I am.  
 
I&#039;d like to think that God gave me a brain and free will to make my own decisions. &quot;Hate&quot; is such a strong word.  
 
It hurts me that your friend thought that you would automatically hate her because now you were part of something that she recognized as being hateful against people like her. It&#039;s a stereotype like all Italians belong to the mob (we don&#039;t).  
 
So what happened after that? After the end of your story? Did you get things straightened out, or did she leave the company? or what? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, John, I didn&#039;t know I was supposed to hate gays and lesbians either as a Christian. And, you know, I don&#039;t. I don&#039;t hate anyone for whatever lifestyle they live, because I know they didn&#039;t choose it. I have several gay and lesbian friends. So what, right? Just as I am colorblind when it comes to race (we aren&#039;t black or white or brown or red&#8230; we&#039;re the HUMAN race!), a person&#039;s sexual orientation, identity or whatever the heck it&#039;s called doesn&#039;t matter to me. What DOES matter to me is their worth as a person. Who am I to judge anyone? Of course, I&#039;m not perfect and when I find myself judging someone, I feel terrible about it, because that&#039;s not who I am. </p>
<p>I&#039;d like to think that God gave me a brain and free will to make my own decisions. &quot;Hate&quot; is such a strong word. </p>
<p>It hurts me that your friend thought that you would automatically hate her because now you were part of something that she recognized as being hateful against people like her. It&#039;s a stereotype like all Italians belong to the mob (we don&#039;t). </p>
<p>So what happened after that? After the end of your story? Did you get things straightened out, or did she leave the company? or what?</p>
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