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		<title>By: brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Aug 2010 15:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill, 
I am concern with your attempt to push the word and act of homosexuality away so quickly as if it is not in the Bible. What about &quot;Sodomy, Sodomites &amp; Sodom.&quot; And the list goes on with several verses speaking of the act of homosexuality. It has and will always be in the Bible, original word. 
I would be interested in your thoughts, thanks. 
Brad </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,<br />
I am concern with your attempt to push the word and act of homosexuality away so quickly as if it is not in the Bible. What about &quot;Sodomy, Sodomites &amp; Sodom.&quot; And the list goes on with several verses speaking of the act of homosexuality. It has and will always be in the Bible, original word.<br />
I would be interested in your thoughts, thanks.<br />
Brad</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-20908</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 05:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You need help alright. Get real, and I mean that literally because you aren&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You need help alright. Get real, and I mean that literally because you aren&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-20906</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 04:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>**********nor men who practice homosexuality..*********

Therein lies part of the problem in these discussions. Interpretations.  The word &quot;homosexuality&quot; was not in King James original version, for example. It could not have been because the word itself was not in existence until Freud first coined it in the 19th century. I was raised on the KJ but haven&#039;t read one for years so it may be there now. I do have The Living Bible and it is in there. It&#039;s a re-interpretation from the earlier &quot;effeminate&quot; which is itself and interpretation from Greek, which was an interpretation from Hebrew which is an interpretation from Aramaic which.....well, you get my point. 

The original ancient languages of the Biblical writings had no word for homosexuality because the cultures surrounding early Christianity made no such distinction. People had sex with men or women. That was it and, apparently for the most part, it was a matter of little concern and it didn&#039;t become an issue until the 2nd or 3rd centuries as what we now know as the Roman Catholic Church began to take shape and the religious leaders got hung up on sex and gender issues, often for political reasons. 

The word &quot;homosexual&quot; is a glaring example of people with personal agenda changing &quot;jots and tittles&quot; to suit their own theological notions. 

And just an ironic note: King James was a flaming queen, so much so that his advisers had to repeatedly admonish him to tone it down lest he upset the people he ruled.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>**********nor men who practice homosexuality..*********</p>
<p>Therein lies part of the problem in these discussions. Interpretations.  The word &#8220;homosexuality&#8221; was not in King James original version, for example. It could not have been because the word itself was not in existence until Freud first coined it in the 19th century. I was raised on the KJ but haven&#8217;t read one for years so it may be there now. I do have The Living Bible and it is in there. It&#8217;s a re-interpretation from the earlier &#8220;effeminate&#8221; which is itself and interpretation from Greek, which was an interpretation from Hebrew which is an interpretation from Aramaic which&#8230;..well, you get my point. </p>
<p>The original ancient languages of the Biblical writings had no word for homosexuality because the cultures surrounding early Christianity made no such distinction. People had sex with men or women. That was it and, apparently for the most part, it was a matter of little concern and it didn&#8217;t become an issue until the 2nd or 3rd centuries as what we now know as the Roman Catholic Church began to take shape and the religious leaders got hung up on sex and gender issues, often for political reasons. </p>
<p>The word &#8220;homosexual&#8221; is a glaring example of people with personal agenda changing &#8220;jots and tittles&#8221; to suit their own theological notions. </p>
<p>And just an ironic note: King James was a flaming queen, so much so that his advisers had to repeatedly admonish him to tone it down lest he upset the people he ruled.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-20899</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 04:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall something in the Bible.....an admonition to not cause another to stumble. I don&#039;t know the verse but it sure seems appropriate to many who profess their christianity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall something in the Bible&#8230;..an admonition to not cause another to stumble. I don&#8217;t know the verse but it sure seems appropriate to many who profess their christianity.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-1/#comment-20894</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 03:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy?  Who knew?  Guess I&#039;ll see y&#039;all in hell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy?  Who knew?  Guess I&#8217;ll see y&#8217;all in hell.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-20900</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Time and again it is asked HOW homosexual sex harms others and repeatedly the answer from anti-gay religious is that it does.......without ever saying how. They never answer the question, just repeatedly pontificate.  
 
The media is complicit in this. Politicians and religious conservatives rant on about how gay marriage is harmful to marriage in general but they never say how, and the media never insists they explain. Why is that? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Time and again it is asked HOW homosexual sex harms others and repeatedly the answer from anti-gay religious is that it does&#8230;&#8230;.without ever saying how. They never answer the question, just repeatedly pontificate. </p>
<p>The media is complicit in this. Politicians and religious conservatives rant on about how gay marriage is harmful to marriage in general but they never say how, and the media never insists they explain. Why is that?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 May 2010 20:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, fireplaces everywhere. And I&#039;ll get to meet The Village People.  Talk about after party!!! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, fireplaces everywhere. And I&#039;ll get to meet The Village People.  Talk about after party!!!</p>
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		<title>By: david1995</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-12853</link>
		<dc:creator>david1995</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 03:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey,
my name is David Flores 
and i am a 14 yr. old boy 
from New Jersey
i am Biisexual and S0mewat happy wif
my life but some ppl jus can&#039;t accept 
it waat shuld i do i loved wat u
wrote there n ppl always say &quot;Ooo itz
an Obomination&quot;
then ppl are always callin me a faq or 
faqqet or qay n i suck this i suck tht
wat should i do anyone plz email me with 
answers i need help E-Mail:DaViiDSoNaSty@aol.com
plz email me wif Answers!!! i need help</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey,<br />
my name is David Flores<br />
and i am a 14 yr. old boy<br />
from New Jersey<br />
i am Biisexual and S0mewat happy wif<br />
my life but some ppl jus can&#8217;t accept<br />
it waat shuld i do i loved wat u<br />
wrote there n ppl always say &#8220;Ooo itz<br />
an Obomination&#8221;<br />
then ppl are always callin me a faq or<br />
faqqet or qay n i suck this i suck tht<br />
wat should i do anyone plz email me with<br />
answers i need help E-Mail:DaViiDSoNaSty@aol.com<br />
plz email me wif Answers!!! i need help</p>
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		<title>By: stevie</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-12024</link>
		<dc:creator>stevie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Feb 2009 13:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im gay but im still a good person so hopefully that will be enough to get me in through the gates of heaven but if i had to stop being to get into heaven if that was the only way i wouldnt do it because that means i wouldnt be being myself and i have every right to be myself</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im gay but im still a good person so hopefully that will be enough to get me in through the gates of heaven but if i had to stop being to get into heaven if that was the only way i wouldnt do it because that means i wouldnt be being myself and i have every right to be myself</p>
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		<title>By: arlywn</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/04/16/if-my-gay-loved-ones-go-to-hell-im-going-with-them/comment-page-2/#comment-8432</link>
		<dc:creator>arlywn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 13:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik, I&#039;m confused. Are you saying that by simply acknowledging the fact that homosexuality is a sin, you&#039;ll still go to heaven. Or do you actually have to stop commiting the sin too? 

Because if thats the case, then a lot of people are going to heaven even though they do horrid things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik, I&#8217;m confused. Are you saying that by simply acknowledging the fact that homosexuality is a sin, you&#8217;ll still go to heaven. Or do you actually have to stop commiting the sin too? </p>
<p>Because if thats the case, then a lot of people are going to heaven even though they do horrid things.</p>
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