Comments on: Evangelist or Ego-Driven Meddler? http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/ Trying God's patience since 1958 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 06:59:31 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Gary http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108215 Gary Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:20:00 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108215 @John, Damn that's good! @John,

Damn that’s good!

]]> By: Sox http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108214 Sox Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:59:34 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108214 Cheryel, the opposite of love isn't hate, it's fear. As God is pure love those who use fear to sell a religious point of view are actually driving a wedge between their converts and God. Not something I would personally want to be responsible for. Cheryel, the opposite of love isn’t hate, it’s fear. As God is pure love those who use fear to sell a religious point of view are actually driving a wedge between their converts and God. Not something I would personally want to be responsible for.

]]> By: Robert http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108212 Robert Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:48:42 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108212 My grandmother always said... "Actions speak louder than words". Evangelizing Preachers seem to me to usually be talking AT me... rarely listening... and doing even less. (And often driving very nice cars, living in very large houses and using their churches as platforms to promote very profitable secondary sources of income... like Erwin McManus of Mosaic. He is now selling bags for $799.00 at http://www.mcmanus.la/ and uses his flock to get the word out via social media.) I prefer honest actions... not public relations. My grandmother always said… “Actions speak louder than words”. Evangelizing Preachers seem to me to usually be talking AT me… rarely listening… and doing even less. (And often driving very nice cars, living in very large houses and using their churches as platforms to promote very profitable secondary sources of income… like Erwin McManus of Mosaic. He is now selling bags for $799.00 at http://www.mcmanus.la/ and uses his flock to get the word out via social media.) I prefer honest actions… not public relations.

]]> By: Golly http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108210 Golly Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:38:58 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108210 One can be evangelical about any belief system or political cause. As for me, I'm now a devout hypocrite. "Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves for we shall never cease to be amused." -Anon. I found recent reactionary behavior at a certain progressive siite dismaying and am now tired of those preaching to the choir. Let's hear it for those who acknowledge imperfection and model growth through healthy dialogue. One can be evangelical about any belief system or political cause. As for me, I’m now a devout hypocrite. “Blessed are we who can laugh at ourselves for we shall never cease to be amused.” -Anon. I found recent reactionary behavior at a certain progressive siite dismaying and am now tired of those preaching to the choir. Let’s hear it for those who acknowledge imperfection and model growth through healthy dialogue.

]]> By: Cheryel Lemley-McRoy http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108209 Cheryel Lemley-McRoy Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:28:11 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108209 Very well said, SOX. Very well said, SOX.

]]> By: Sox http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108207 Sox Wed, 28 Dec 2011 17:08:19 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108207 What is the best way to prothlesize? By speaking of it not at all. By becoming that which you have faith in, by becoming strong and joyous. By becoming one who is obviously at peace with self and God. By becoming such a pillar of strength and confidence, and very relaxed in peace and security, that they will wonder what manner of powers created this. If you are such an example, you don’t need words. Just be who you are, and do not try to convince them. Do not try to convince them. Do not argue. Be. What they see, they will inquire about. Answer only as much as they are prepared to receive. Do not preach. Do not argue. Do not be concerned with their fears for you. You are not conformed to this world, when you have chosen a different set of values. Understand this, as written, "Be not conformed to this world. Be not like they are. Be different. As you are not conformed, yet be you transformed by renewing of your mind that you may prove what is the good and perfect will of God." It is written in the Epistles of Paul. "Be ye not conformed to this world, to their religion, but be ye transformed." And how? By changing your mind—by proving the good, the perfect mind and will of your God. As they see, so will they as well change the mind. Renewal of the mind. But do not struggle. Do not fight. Allow it to happen. What is the best way to prothlesize? By speaking of it not at all. By becoming that which you have faith in, by becoming strong and joyous. By becoming one who is obviously at peace with self and God. By becoming such a pillar of strength and confidence, and very relaxed in peace and security, that they will wonder what manner of powers created this. If you are such an example, you don’t need words. Just be who you are, and do not try to convince them.

Do not try to convince them. Do not argue. Be.

What they see, they will inquire about. Answer only as much as they are prepared to receive. Do not preach. Do not argue. Do not be concerned with their fears for you.

You are not conformed to this world, when you have chosen a different set of values. Understand this, as written, “Be not conformed to this world. Be not like they are. Be different. As you are not conformed, yet be you transformed by renewing of your mind that you may prove what is the good and perfect will of God.” It is written in the Epistles of Paul. “Be ye not conformed to this world, to their religion, but be ye transformed.” And how? By changing your mind—by proving the good, the perfect mind and will of your God.

As they see, so will they as well change the mind. Renewal of the mind. But do not struggle. Do not fight. Allow it to happen.

]]> By: LSS http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108200 LSS Wed, 28 Dec 2011 16:26:52 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108200 Have you seen THE BIG KAHUNA? Not that you need to, because you get it. But in case somebody doesn't get it and you need to make them see what's wrong with marketing of God. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0189584/ I don't think the online description gets into the religion part of it but it's very very clever. Have you seen THE BIG KAHUNA?
Not that you need to, because you get it. But in case somebody doesn’t get it and you need to make them see what’s wrong with marketing of God.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0189584/
I don’t think the online description gets into the religion part of it but it’s very very clever.

]]> By: Bryan http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108197 Bryan Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:56:39 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108197 Me three. Me three.

]]> By: Desiree Dickens via Facebook http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108205 Desiree Dickens via Facebook Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:52:10 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108205 it's not about YOU - it's about GOD it’s not about YOU – it’s about GOD

]]> By: Roxanne Schubert Danek via Facebook http://johnshore.com/2008/10/01/evangelist-or-ego-driven-meddler/comment-page-2/#comment-108204 Roxanne Schubert Danek via Facebook Wed, 28 Dec 2011 15:40:17 +0000 http://johnshore.wordpress.com/?p=1249#comment-108204 Thought provoking...Or, am I acting like She doesn't? Thought provoking…Or, am I acting like She doesn’t?

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