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	<title>Comments on: Christian: Don&#8217;t Too Readily Dismiss the Rational Atheist</title>
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	<description>Trying God&#039;s patience since 1958</description>
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		<title>By: Bob Seidensticker</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/12/16/christians-dont-too-readily-dismiss-atheistsrationalists/comment-page-3/#comment-108503</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Seidensticker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The challenge of encouraging the Christian to intellectually critique their religion is one that I tackled with my book, &quot;Cross Examined: An Unconventional Spiritual Journey.&quot;  Intellectual indolence, as you put it, is the wide, easy path.

(I also don&#039;t think much of the Christian attitude toward gays.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The challenge of encouraging the Christian to intellectually critique their religion is one that I tackled with my book, &#8220;Cross Examined: An Unconventional Spiritual Journey.&#8221;  Intellectual indolence, as you put it, is the wide, easy path.</p>
<p>(I also don&#8217;t think much of the Christian attitude toward gays.)</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe Brain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe Brain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 22:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>buzz : Matthew 22:35-40.

People like myself consider 35-38 optional, and/or redundant.

Everyone here is an atheist, it&#039;s just the degree that differs. I just disbelieve in one more god than you, 3 more if you&#039;re Trinitarian.  If I&#039;m wrong, then I believe that by following Matthew 22:39-40, I&#039;m fulfilling the earlier parts too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>buzz : Matthew 22:35-40.</p>
<p>People like myself consider 35-38 optional, and/or redundant.</p>
<p>Everyone here is an atheist, it&#8217;s just the degree that differs. I just disbelieve in one more god than you, 3 more if you&#8217;re Trinitarian.  If I&#8217;m wrong, then I believe that by following Matthew 22:39-40, I&#8217;m fulfilling the earlier parts too.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne Young via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne Young via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 20:04:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love how he said that while there would be no death-bed conversion for him, &quot;I like surpirses&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love how he said that while there would be no death-bed conversion for him, &#8220;I like surpirses&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dwayne G Mason via Facebook</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/12/16/christians-dont-too-readily-dismiss-atheistsrationalists/comment-page-3/#comment-106464</link>
		<dc:creator>Dwayne G Mason via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;we substitute the clamorous fervor of emotion for the quiet discipline of studied comprehension.&quot;

I LOVE that line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;we substitute the clamorous fervor of emotion for the quiet discipline of studied comprehension.&#8221;</p>
<p>I LOVE that line.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/12/16/christians-dont-too-readily-dismiss-atheistsrationalists/comment-page-3/#comment-106432</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:10:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The western world has certainly lost one of it&#039;s great

Thanks for resharing this John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The western world has certainly lost one of it&#8217;s great</p>
<p>Thanks for resharing this John</p>
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		<title>By: John Shore via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Shore via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 12:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(thanks, Kimberly, as ever.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(thanks, Kimberly, as ever.)</p>
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		<title>By: Vale Christopher &#171; Wondering Pilgrim</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/12/16/christians-dont-too-readily-dismiss-atheistsrationalists/comment-page-2/#comment-106409</link>
		<dc:creator>Vale Christopher &#171; Wondering Pilgrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 11:52:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] He wrote a book &#8211; God is Not Great.  My life&#8217;s vocation has been arguing the opposite. Same topic, different perspective.  So yep, we differed in many ways, yet I have this felt affinity. And it seems funny attempting to align my pigmy reasonings with his gigantic intellect.  Maybe it&#8217;s simply our shared humanity &#8211; &#8220;Ask not for whom the bell tolls&#8230;&#8221;  I resonate with this reflection from John Shore:  Generally speaking, atheists have championed what we Christians too readily surrender: the sacredness of thought that’s uncompromisingly rational and unapologetically independent.  You can read the rest of it here. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] He wrote a book &#8211; God is Not Great.  My life&#8217;s vocation has been arguing the opposite. Same topic, different perspective.  So yep, we differed in many ways, yet I have this felt affinity. And it seems funny attempting to align my pigmy reasonings with his gigantic intellect.  Maybe it&#8217;s simply our shared humanity &#8211; &#8220;Ask not for whom the bell tolls&#8230;&#8221;  I resonate with this reflection from John Shore:  Generally speaking, atheists have championed what we Christians too readily surrender: the sacredness of thought that’s uncompromisingly rational and unapologetically independent.  You can read the rest of it here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly J Edwards via Facebook</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2008/12/16/christians-dont-too-readily-dismiss-atheistsrationalists/comment-page-2/#comment-106406</link>
		<dc:creator>Kimberly J Edwards via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:43:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wonderful, john.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wonderful, john.</p>
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		<title>By: Demian Rubalcaba via Facebook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Demian Rubalcaba via Facebook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely true!..but qualify it it with this: Most hardline atheists do not operate from this position of uncertainty and humility either. And it is one of many points that I find they completely agree with most fundy Christians on, only from the other side of the argument. That is, that they, like a fundy, have it all figured out and everyone else&#039;s perceptions on the matter are silly mistakes... I promise you that the next great human oppression will come not from the robe-laden preist but from the lab coat-laden scientist suffocating humankind by putting us under the microscope and subjugating us to statistical analysis, testable hypothesis, instinctual drives and approach/ avoid and reward/ punishment diminutives. I swear, as soon as we have pried the preist&#039;s hand from our eyes, we find the scientist&#039;s hands wrapped around our necks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely true!..but qualify it it with this: Most hardline atheists do not operate from this position of uncertainty and humility either. And it is one of many points that I find they completely agree with most fundy Christians on, only from the other side of the argument. That is, that they, like a fundy, have it all figured out and everyone else&#8217;s perceptions on the matter are silly mistakes&#8230; I promise you that the next great human oppression will come not from the robe-laden preist but from the lab coat-laden scientist suffocating humankind by putting us under the microscope and subjugating us to statistical analysis, testable hypothesis, instinctual drives and approach/ avoid and reward/ punishment diminutives. I swear, as soon as we have pried the preist&#8217;s hand from our eyes, we find the scientist&#8217;s hands wrapped around our necks.</p>
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		<title>By: buzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>buzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 06:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never comprehend how people can say understanding the Bible is difficult.
  
Love God
Love your neighbor
  
That&#039;s pretty much it.
  
(Understanding is easy, application is hard!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never comprehend how people can say understanding the Bible is difficult.</p>
<p>Love God<br />
Love your neighbor</p>
<p>That&#8217;s pretty much it.</p>
<p>(Understanding is easy, application is hard!)</p>
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