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		<title>By: John Shore</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18627</link>
		<dc:creator>John Shore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 22:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What a great response, Eric. I really appreciate it, especially given that (let&#039;s face it), I was dancing pretty freely here on the not-all-that-fine-a-line between ... well, let&#039;s see: smugly condescending, and outright obnoxious. Wonderful response. U the man. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a great response, Eric. I really appreciate it, especially given that (let&#039;s face it), I was dancing pretty freely here on the not-all-that-fine-a-line between &#8230; well, let&#039;s see: smugly condescending, and outright obnoxious. Wonderful response. U the man.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18614</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 03:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi John, 
Thank you for commenting on this church which I am very familiar with, and allowing me to answer some of the implied questions.  
 
I agree the sign is new agey, but the church was established 37 years ago quite before the new age movement and &quot;centers&quot; existed. Also, the building was constructed in 1887 and is an Encinitas native. 
 
While Spirtualists practice similar things to new agers, it  is a religion dating back maybe 100 years. Typical Spiritualists are devoutly Christian, believing only that one may communicate with people after they go to heaven, so the choice of the term &quot;church&#039; is a natural one. Perhaps you were thinking of Spiritism which is much more occult.  
 
Lastly, the  founder was a paleantologist and astronomer, and loved science. As a result he wanted those who ran the organization to have a solid grasp of the basic scientific concepts such as evolution. Recal the NSF survey of Americans that revealed that more than half did not know the Earth goes around the sun, or that the dinosaurs predated humans by millions of years. These concepts form a well-rounded worldview in this philosophy, and are thus taught there. 
 
Advertising the teaching of evolution at a church *does* sounds funny, and I appreciated your commentary. 
 
kind regards, 
Eric </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John,</p>
<p>Thank you for commenting on this church which I am very familiar with, and allowing me to answer some of the implied questions. </p>
<p>I agree the sign is new agey, but the church was established 37 years ago quite before the new age movement and &quot;centers&quot; existed. Also, the building was constructed in 1887 and is an Encinitas native.</p>
<p>While Spirtualists practice similar things to new agers, it  is a religion dating back maybe 100 years. Typical Spiritualists are devoutly Christian, believing only that one may communicate with people after they go to heaven, so the choice of the term &quot;church&#039; is a natural one. Perhaps you were thinking of Spiritism which is much more occult. </p>
<p>Lastly, the  founder was a paleantologist and astronomer, and loved science. As a result he wanted those who ran the organization to have a solid grasp of the basic scientific concepts such as evolution. Recal the NSF survey of Americans that revealed that more than half did not know the Earth goes around the sun, or that the dinosaurs predated humans by millions of years. These concepts form a well-rounded worldview in this philosophy, and are thus taught there.</p>
<p>Advertising the teaching of evolution at a church *does* sounds funny, and I appreciated your commentary.</p>
<p>kind regards,</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: ric booth</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18599</link>
		<dc:creator>ric booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 08:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah Chris, I didn&#039;t mean to imply same camp, just same comedy of co-opting titles and/or symbols. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah Chris, I didn&#039;t mean to imply same camp, just same comedy of co-opting titles and/or symbols.</p>
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		<title>By: (sort of ) Christian</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18559</link>
		<dc:creator>(sort of ) Christian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ric, I had no idea that they used a cross.  What a hoot. But to be fair to the New Agers (even the wacky fly-paper ones that are stuck on anything &#039;spiritual&#039; that comes down the pike) the Scientologists are not part of their gang. They are just normal folk who have been duped by a Machiavellian SciFi writer.and are closer to the suicidal comet jumpers than the crystal tuners. I think the closest weirdo religion to theirs is the Nation of Islam. 
 
Did you know that L. Ron Hubbard spoke with a lisp?  Think about that when you next hear Tom or John talking about Operating Thetans. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ric, I had no idea that they used a cross.  What a hoot. But to be fair to the New Agers (even the wacky fly-paper ones that are stuck on anything &#039;spiritual&#039; that comes down the pike) the Scientologists are not part of their gang. They are just normal folk who have been duped by a Machiavellian SciFi writer.and are closer to the suicidal comet jumpers than the crystal tuners. I think the closest weirdo religion to theirs is the Nation of Islam.</p>
<p>Did you know that L. Ron Hubbard spoke with a lisp?  Think about that when you next hear Tom or John talking about Operating Thetans.</p>
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		<title>By: onemansbeliefs</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18552</link>
		<dc:creator>onemansbeliefs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jan 2010 15:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neat website.  I found this on their Philosophy page... 
 
&quot;Through all time, the great spiritual leaders have been saying the same teaching; but as time had slipped by, these truths have been almost destroyed by the dogma added by mankind. Almost all the additions and deletions have diluted or destroyed what the original teacher was trying to say. In many cases these changes were made by the priesthood to gain control over the populace.&quot; 
 
I did not copy and paste all, but stopped at this last statement to contrast it with what I found on another page, which was this... 
 
&quot;No requests for information from Spirit will be answered by us without an appointment with one of our Ministers.&quot; 
 
Thank &quot;Something&quot; that they are doing their part to reduce control over the populace. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neat website.  I found this on their Philosophy page&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;Through all time, the great spiritual leaders have been saying the same teaching; but as time had slipped by, these truths have been almost destroyed by the dogma added by mankind. Almost all the additions and deletions have diluted or destroyed what the original teacher was trying to say. In many cases these changes were made by the priesthood to gain control over the populace.&quot;</p>
<p>I did not copy and paste all, but stopped at this last statement to contrast it with what I found on another page, which was this&#8230;</p>
<p>&quot;No requests for information from Spirit will be answered by us without an appointment with one of our Ministers.&quot;</p>
<p>Thank &quot;Something&quot; that they are doing their part to reduce control over the populace.</p>
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		<title>By: Diana</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18544</link>
		<dc:creator>Diana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 23:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;John, in light of your recent posts I cannot help but to begin to think that you really don&#039;t like anything &#8216;New Agey&#8217;.&quot; 
 
Yeah, John, what&#039;s up with all the anti-new ageist posts?  They&#039;re just people walking a path just like the rest of us.  Lighten up! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;John, in light of your recent posts I cannot help but to begin to think that you really don&#039;t like anything &lsquo;New Agey&rsquo;.&quot;</p>
<p>Yeah, John, what&#039;s up with all the anti-new ageist posts?  They&#039;re just people walking a path just like the rest of us.  Lighten up!</p>
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		<title>By: ric booth</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18518</link>
		<dc:creator>ric booth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One the funniest things I noticed (way later than everybody else I suppose) is the Church of Scientology uses a cross as their, well, logo. America! I don&#039;t gotta love it, right? That&#039;s not a commandment? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One the funniest things I noticed (way later than everybody else I suppose) is the Church of Scientology uses a cross as their, well, logo. America! I don&#039;t gotta love it, right? That&#039;s not a commandment?</p>
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		<title>By: ~Julia~</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18515</link>
		<dc:creator>~Julia~</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 09:36:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, in light of your recent posts I cannot help but to begin to think that you really dont like anything &#039;New Agey&#039;. 
 
Hope I&#039;m wrong.... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, in light of your recent posts I cannot help but to begin to think that you really dont like anything &#039;New Agey&#039;.</p>
<p>Hope I&#039;m wrong&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: cadoah</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18514</link>
		<dc:creator>cadoah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jan 2010 08:49:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Guru Hum-a-Cosmic-Tune-in-Your-Pants.&quot; Hilarious... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;Guru Hum-a-Cosmic-Tune-in-Your-Pants.&quot; Hilarious&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Lindsay</title>
		<link>http://johnshore.com/2010/01/21/its-like-church-but-different/comment-page-1/#comment-18513</link>
		<dc:creator>Lindsay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great commentary. Not a FAN of the new agery myself , but I think by UU you are referring to Unitarian Universalists? They are by NO means New Age, but rather one of the oldest denominations in America (dating back to 1630): &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.firstchurchboston.org/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.firstchurchboston.org/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great commentary. Not a FAN of the new agery myself , but I think by UU you are referring to Unitarian Universalists? They are by NO means New Age, but rather one of the oldest denominations in America (dating back to 1630): <a href="http://www.firstchurchboston.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstchurchboston.org/</a></p>
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