This is about what I end up looking like if I'm trying to come up with an alternative word for the curse word I want to use.
I am entirely confident that God is perfectly okay with me cursing whenever I find it entirely appropriate to do so.
The key phrase there is “whenever I find it appropriate to do so.” I don’t often find it appropriate for me to curse. I rarely (if increasingly) employ such language in what I write, for instance, because I know a lot of youngerish people read my stuff, and it’s bad enough how often I make up words like youngerish without having to compound that egregiousness by, through including curse words in my text, subtly sending to the youngarinos the message that … um … I curse. Which I do. But just not around kids.
I also tend to try my best not to curse around strangers, because you never know when you’re going to make someone’s ear wax start melting. And if there’s anything more disgusting than a person’s ear wax dripping out of the side of their head onto their shoulder or dinner plate, I don’t know what it is. I don’t want to see that. Nobody does.
But with friends and/or people whom I can tell aren’t likely to be offended, I pretty much curse like the warehouse-working Teamster I used to be before I started getting paid because of how I write so good.
For about the first year or two after I became a Christian, I totally tried to never curse, because I figured that was part of the Christian Deal. But not cursing made my whole upper body feel constipated. (Ew. Sorry.) So I started cursing again. I figured God would be happier with me if I just said what I had to say, instead of always hemming and hawwing whilst trying to come up with a language of expression different from any other language I’d ever known or used.
If cursing is called for, I’m the guy for the job. And cursing very often is called for. Our language has evolved in such a way that there are a lot of curse words and phrases that capture a thing way better than can be done without them. And I am nothing if not a slave to efficiency of articulation. If you say about someone (kids: close your eyes) “That guy’s just a fuck-up,” you have, by any objective criterion, nailed that guy. Everyone knows exactly what you’ve communicated—which is actually really, really dense.
You’re not saying the guy’s a bad person. You’re not saying he’s ill-intentioned. You’re not saying he’s constitutionally or congenitally incapable. You’re not subscribing to him any motivations whatsoeverl. You’re not saying anything but that … well, the guy’s a fuck-up. And that perfectly says it all.
You try to take that phrase away from me because you think God has a problem with me … intelligently using language?
Yeah, that’s just not going to work for me.
If there was another way to say (kids! shut ‘em!), “That guy’s an asshole,” you can trust that I’d use that other way. But do you know how many words you’ve have to spin through to come up with a descriptive phrase anywhere near that comprehensive? You can’t: to even come close to what’s connoted by “asshole,” you’d have to talk for a half-hour. That’s why even Christians who think God disapproves of their cursing substitute cutesy little faux-curse words they just plug in where the Bad Words go. So they have to say things like, “Fudge this; I’m outta here,” or “That guy’s a fiddly-widdly nooky-pooky” or whatever dipshittiness they say. (Actually, that’s mean. I think it’s kind of charming when Christians use their own swear-word substitutes. Whenever I hear a Christian use faux-cursing, I always think, “Man, I can’t believe that person’s actually trained his brain to insert totally made-up curse words in place of real curse words. I wonder how long it took him to retrain his whole brain like that? I can’t get my brain trained to remember my phone number.” Plus, I like the way fake curse words tend to dissipate whatever negative energy called them to mind in the first place.)
Anyway, I curse when/how/about what I want to. I trust myself with that ongoing judgment. I’m confident that God trusts me with it, too. And I sure don’t see anything in the Bible about how cursing is a sin, or whatever. I thought it would be there: “Thou shalt not use dirty words,” or something. But it’s not. As far as I know, there’s nothing in the Bible about cursing at all.
I think God has more important things to worry about.
I know I do.
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My dad’s ultimate condemnation of a pious hypocrite was ‘wouldn’t say ‘shit’ if they had a mouthful’. Sometimes the the vulgarity of our lips must match the vulgarity of the situation.
Thanks John.
If curse words are upsetting to God, then I’m in a lot of fucking trouble.
No, you’re in trouble for many things other than your sass mouth, my dearest. xxxooo
the drugs? the sex? the rock’n'roll? the generally snarky demeanor? my tempting handsomeness?
Or, is the empty Jack Daniels bottles? (yes, lord, I know I should recycled them.) Was it the accidental stumble upon “wildboys dotcom” when I was actually looking for “wildbirds dotcom”? chasing Mormon missionaries around with my car? the KJV Bible I threw at a fundie preacher-man? that I like man-parts over lady-parts? (nah, it’s not that … we know He’s cool there.)
come ‘on, babe, I need some specifics here. xoxoxo
Yes, Michael Moore, you are.
*snerkkpf!*
I’m nearly weeping from laughter over here…
Dear GOD ALMIGHTY,
It’s not my fault. The man you’re looking for is named John Shore. Tall guy with glasses, wears the same blue plaid boxers every day. I’d be a straight Southern Baptist who only has sex missionary style, and only to procreate, if it weren’t for that John Shore.
Expletives are about ten layers down in why I’m a bitch damned to hell… if God did that.
Elizabeth, I recently read that one goes to Heaven for the weather and Hell for the company. See ya there!
I love this article, but I have a question. In the end, you said there’s nothing in the bible about cursing. In that case, what’s your interpretation of Colossians 3:8?
You’re probably not listening. Hello, you commented in February. This is an interesting take on Biblical obscenity vis-à-vis Colossians, though. http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/vulgar.html
Great Post John! Former Fundamentalist Christian so grew up with that kind of shit all the time. If your going to swear than do it! Actual conversation I had ounce “You really showed stop dropping F-bombs.” Asshole Christian, “What the Fuck is a F-bomb?” Me
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! My kid once had a friend over…they were in Jr. High…mind you, the only words not allowed in that house were “dummy” and “Stupid”…My kid’s friend said something about someone else being stupid, and my kid’s eyes widened…he knew what was coming…Me: “We NEVER say “stupid” you asshole! My kids fell to the floor laughing and so did the guest, when he recovered….it’s one of my depression-fighting images, that kid’s face!
I love this!!!
http://psychcentral.com/blog/archives/2009/03/30/why-do-we-swear/
I’d rather people just be their authentic selves. And sometimes a curse word is the right word. That’s just true.
My favorite band in the world, the Avett Brothers, has a song called “Me & God” that contains the line “sometimes I use curse words when I pray.” That is so much better than trying to present a sanitized, fake-y self. God sees through it anyway.
I love words. I love to use them to express myself as fully and honestly as I can. Which is why it drives me up a fucking wall when people are such assholes about THE EVIL SWEARS. If I tell you something, and my verbiage is peppered with fucks, fucking and motherfucking assholes, you sure as hell get my point very fast. I am very angry, very passionate and very, very serious. And someone doesn’t like “those” words…. Well, use them. The more you use them, the less power they have. If thy become common, thy are no longer swears. Use your words thoughtfully, and get off your high horse. Don’t be an ass.
When my kids were little, the only two words that were punishable were “dummy” and “stupid” when referring to another person.
My son’s friend called him stupid once, and I said, “Hey! We don’t EVER say “stupid” around here, you asshole!”
The look was priceless…..
The only rule I had was that whatever words were used to hurt, were not allowed…but sometimes we turned the air blue….and laughed until our faces were….blue….it was effing awesome!
“I’m a Christian and I’m not an asshole” (from your last blog) should be on a T shirt.
You seem like a literate kinda guy, John. But, if you haven’t seen it already, allow me to recommend to you the documentary “Fuck.” It won’t steer you wrong on the cultural singularity of that word.
One of my favourite made-for-TV-movies aired on HBO back when computers were still the size of small elephants. It was called ‘Glory! Glory!’ and starred Richard Thomas and Ellen Greene.
Brief summary to provide context: She is a drug addicted, hard partying, rock singer with no aspirations to chastity (or even monogamy). He is a young preacher who recently inherited leadership of his father’s mega-church but can’t seem to connect with his congregation. He sees her singing in a bar and asks her to sing at his church but to write “Christian” lyrics instead.
Long about the 2nd omelet, he addresses her frequent cursing, telling her “Our Lord was a carpenter. When he banged his finger with a hammer, I expect his language was that of a carpenter.” Then he asks her why every other word she utters has to be ‘fuck.’ Her response was brilliant: “If I used it EVERY word, people might think I was crude.”
Hmm, not really sure if i had a point in all that but it was nice to reminisce about one of my favourite shows ever.
Wow! Nice to meet the other person who has actually seen that movie
Just for the record, I love it, too, and I remember and like the carpenter quote. Thanks for the trip!
Thanks for the response to my email, John.
I don’t think saying words like “fuck” and “shit” are a sin, but I do think that saying words like (only saying for the purpose of this posting so please forgive me) “nigger”,”fag”, and “retard” are a sin though. These words are very offensive to a group of people, and I believe that anything that hurts a person’s or group of people’s feelings is a sin.
But it’s not like the ‘regular’ curse words don’t hurt people either. In fact, they’re often used for that very purpose.
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It’s not the words, it’s what you do with them. I imagine there are few situations where saying, “You fucking asshole,” is What Jesus Would Do. On the other hand, if your buddy had just been shot and you were holding his hand and said, “Don’t you dare die, you fucking asshole,” I have difficulty imagining Jesus would be offended.
When I was a teenager, working as a cashier, a lady who I’m sure considered herself very Godly talked to my manager and tried very hard to get me fired because I slammed the cash drawer on my hand and said “shit” under my breath. Did Jesus approve of her conduct? You tell me.
P.S. I hit the “Submit” button too fast, demonstrated by the fact that I inadvertently omitted the “y” from “your” in my first sentence in my previous message. But I also failed to mention that according to Paul’s letter to the Galatians, self control is one of the fruits of the spirit. I know that when I am not manifesting fruit, I am not fully connected with the Holy Spirit. I can speak only for myself, but when I want to act out or speak unkindly, as you describe, I am not practicing self control, and I have lost hold of the other fruits as well. I hope you will look up the passage and consider taking it to heart. It is a good one.
Was it “self control” that caused you to call the host of this blog lazy and self-deluded? I wonder if you’ll ever come back and admit to that. Probably not. Perhaps before you do Laura, you’ll spend some time with that verse – reflect upon your original comments – and look in a mirror.
I didn’t see any of your other posts, but I agree with this one. I believe it’s scripturally sound.
I can’t let you get away with our second excuse — that there is no better way to describe certain people than a-h or f-u. (I sometimes say them, but I am constitutionally unable to spell them out.) Both of those terms are VAGUE. You might want to believe they are specific, but that would just be you deluding yourself. There are plenty of words in English to describe whatever behavior you might observe. Please don’t be so lazy and self-deluded that you cop out and claim that there are no better words. You just don’t know them. I hope you get a dictionary for Christmas from someone who is willing to help you practice using a new descriptive word a day. May God bless you and yours. Laura
You arrogant prig. There. There’s two words I know.
I love how people like Laura can attack others for finding some good reasons to swear by *actually* using words like “cop out”, “don’t be so lazy and self-deluded” and end it with “God’s blessings to you!”. I’m sure it’s because she’s righteously motivated by the spirit – right Laura? You might want to get your priorities in order. Until you do, please stop speaking for Jesus on the internet. Ugh.
BWAAAAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
I love your new early Christmas present John…it has the most Fan Tab U Lous words to describe some of your readers…’arrogant prig’…LOVE IT…now let me look in my new thesaurus …yep there’s a couple…’self righteous no sense of humor idget’…how’s that Laura? I barely cursed at all. Pretty good for a lazy person, don’t ya think???+
Dear Laura,
It’s amazing that people feel they have such immunity on the internet that they write what you’ve written here. Of course in the name of Jesus, right? I’m sure you’re a delight.
Now I’m going to say what everyone wants to say who read this, but won’t.
You are an asshole. Fuck off.
May God’s richest blessings be extended to you on this, the very holiest night of the year.
Roar.
DR
Your post might have had some credibility if you actually suggested some actual substitute words… try it, it’s not as easy as you suggest.
This reminds me of a note a friend wrote me during a fight in jr. high. It had lots of horrible accusations, then she signed it, “Love, Elise” lol. Classic.
Is Laura saying that the constitution prevents her from using profanity? Oh Laura.
The Lord told us NOT to take his Name in vain. So I try never to do so. When I do, I fee immediately feel bad/sad that once againIi”ve turned my Lords Name into cursing..So I’m very sorry to hear you say it’s just fine to do so. It must hurt Him hear our cursing.
Who said anything about taking anyone’s name in vain?
What an ignorant, immature statement. Last I checked, cursing and taking the Lord’s name in vain are NOT the same thing. Did a Sunday School teacher tell you that?
I wish I could remember where I read this, but I distinctly remember someone saying that taking the Lord’s name in vain had nothing to do with saying “God damn it,” or “Jumping Jesus on a pogo stick” (for instance), but rather with doing something in God’s name that had more to do with our motives than with his.
This wasn’t what I’d read originally, but it gets at what I’m trying to say somewhat better than I’ve just managed: http://www.reclaimingthemind.org/blog/2007/06/what-does-it-really-mean-to-take-the-lords-name-in-vein/
I agree somewhat. If the Bible doesn’t list out specific words to avoid, then what we read about in verses like Ephesians 5:4 must be about the intention of the word. In other words, it’s not that any word is obscene it itself, but rather the way in which it’s used.
If we’re using language to insult and tear down others, then just about any word can be transformed into something obscene as easily as dipping a teddy bear in a dirty toilet bowl.
That said, words are like tools and some tools are more dangerous and powerful than others and require more caution when using them. Our culture endows traditional swear words with additional impact, which means that we need to make sure we’re being extra careful not to abuse those words.
If we trust in what the Scripture says about each of us being a reflection of God, and that we should not be cursing God’s creations, then we need to get over the taboo of swearing and start focusing more on censoring the messages we’re sending. Too many Christians use the faux swearing you mentioned (my mother’s favorite expletive is “oh crumb”), but still cause harm with their “safer” vocabulary. They don’t realize they’re still tearing down the building, but they’re just using sledgehammers instead of bulldozers.
“With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse human beings, who have been made in God’s likeness. Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. “
But there is a difference between ACTUAL ‘cursing’ and cursing in being synonymous with ‘cussing’. Cussing isn’t the opposite of blessing.
p.s. great comment.
“If we’re using language to insult and tear down others, then just about any word can be transformed into something obscene as easily as dipping a teddy bear in a dirty toilet bowl.”
That was really great. Not trying to criticize
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