
Below is the press release that my Important Media Contacts sent me last week, which (so as not to preempt the “We do!” group’s release of their release) I totally couldn’t share with you until this very moment!
Methodist Group to Perform Gay Weddings
In unprecedented move, network of 900+ bypasses denomination’s ban
to reach out directly to LGBT peopleA group of over 900 United Methodists in New York and Connecticut today announced their intention to make weddings available to all people, gay and straight, in spite of their denomination’s ban on gay marriage. The announcement marks the kick-off of a project called We do! Methodists Living Marriage Equality. In an unprecedented move in any major religious denomination, We do! is not only bypassing the formal rules of the church, but also reaching out directly to LGBT groups in New York and Connecticut to let them know about the new network. This morning the group published a list of all its members: clergy members who will perform weddings for gay couples, lay members of the denomination who support them, and congregations who have adopted policies to formally make weddings available to all couples.
“We refuse to discriminate against any of God’s children and pledge to make marriage equality a lived reality within the New York Annual Conference, regardless of sexual orientation or gender expression,” the group declared in statement called A Covenant of Conscience and signed by 164 clergy members, 732 lay people and six entire congregations. In all, 73 congregations within the New York Annual Conference (NYAC) are represented among the signers. NYAC is the regional church body representing United Methodist congregations from Long Island to the Catskills and in southern Connecticut. The full list of signers, as well as the text of the covenant, is here.
“My ordination vows require me minister to all people in my congregation,” said Rev. Sara Lamar-Sterling, the minister at First and Summerfield United Methodist Church in New Haven, CT. “This is about pastoral care, about welcoming all people, but especially the marginalized and the oppressed, like Jesus did.” Lamar-Sterling and her clergy colleagues are risking their jobs and their careers by taking this stand, but they say their integrity as pastors leaves them no choice but to refuse the church’s mandate to discriminate. Over the years, many individual United Methodist clergy have defied the church’s ban, but the We do! project marks the first time an organized network of clergy has done so, and done so with the support of many hundreds of lay members of the church.
“The recognition of the full humanity, sacred worth, and equal rights of gay and lesbian people is crucial to the civil rights struggle of our time. Gay, lesbian, and straight United Methodist laity and clergy are caught in an inescapable network of mutuality, tied in a single garment of destiny,” the Covenant of Conscience states, citing Martin Luther King’s famous Letter from Birmingham Jail. “The continuing denial of full access to all the rights and privileges of church membership in the United Methodist Church is causing deep spiritual harm to our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters and is a threat to us all.”
The United Methodist Church Book of Discipline, the rulebook that governs the country’s third largest Christian denomination, states “Ceremonies that celebrate homosexual unions shall not be conducted by our ministers and shall not be conducted in our churches.” It is one of several anti-gay provisions of the church, which since 1972 has declared “the practice of homosexuality is incompatible with Christian teaching.” The church General Conference meets quadrennially to revise the Discipline and the issue of LGBT exclusion has been hotly debated at each General Conference in the last 40 years. The next General Conference will be April 24 through May 4, 2012, in Tampa, Florida.
The We do! project has been over a year in the making and has been followed by similar efforts in 11 other conferences within the UMC. All told, over 1,000 clergy in 19 states and the District of Columbia have signed a pledge vowing to extend their ministry to all couples seeking the church’s blessing for their relationships. The growing pastoral movement has caused a stir within the church and is expected to have reverberations at the upcoming General Conference.
We do! Methodists Living Marriage Equality is sponsored by Methodists in New Directions (MIND), a grassroots organization working in the New York Annual Conference of the UMC dedicated to ending the church’s prejudice and discrimination against LGBT people. It is co-sponsored by the NY Chapter of the Methodist Federation for Social Action (MFSA), an organization bringing people together to work for peace and justice in the church and the world. Both organizations are independent of the United Methodist Church. More information on the initiative is available on the MIND website at www.mindny.org.
“Whoa!” I thought upon first ogling this, “that is a lot of Methodists! This is such a huge story! I should totally snag an interview with Rev. Sara Lamar-Sterling, the woman quoted in this press release!”
My heart quickened at the thought of interviewing this renegade Christian leader, this bold iconoclast, this trailblazing visionary who was willing to defy authority, buck convention, cleave to God’s truth, and let the chips fall where they may. Was there any way TIME magazine wouldn’t pick up this story? (They’re still publishing TIME magazine, right?)
So I set up the interview. (That’s right. That’s how I Rolodex.)
I like to begin my interviews with controversial mavericks by asking an eye-opening zinger of a question that, like a speeding harpoon of inquiry, plurges straight into the very heart of the issue at hand.
“Are you bummed” I began with Rev. Lamar-Sterling, “about having to go to hell forever?”
She laughed. “Gosh, I hope that doesn’t happen. But I’m not worried about it. Hell is a creative idea dreamed up by Dante and friends.”
Oh. Well. Okay. Not quite the paradigm-buster I was after, but whatever.
She definitely seemed nice.
“Are you scared you might lose your job for doing this?” I asked with edgy provocativeness. I pictured Rev. Lamar-Sterling out on mean streets of New Haven, CT., in her raggedy clerical robes, dejectedly holding out a shiny gold collection plate to passers-by.
“No, not really,” she said cheerily. “There are many steps that would have to happen in order for any of us to actually lose our positions within the church.”
“But it could happen, right?” I asked with an air of conspiratorial subterfuge that I hoped she’d find contagious.
“It’s in the realm of possibilities, yes. But it’s not anything I’m afraid of. In any account, the much bigger picture, for we who have come out in favor of marriage equality, is the fact that gay and lesbian people are excluded and discriminated against every single day of their lives. That’s what really matters here. They’re the ones really bearing a risk out in the world. Compared to theirs, our daily risk is much smaller.”
Oh. What a totally friendly and good-natured point.
“Have you been having to put all this together in secret?” I asked, because who isn’t intrigued by a sneaky pastor?
“No, not in secret,” said Rev. Lamar-Sterling disappointingly. “We’ve been openly working on this for years. And we have our website, which is our main communication tool. We’ve always been very open about talking about this, and sharing our purposes and goals, and collecting signatures and so on. It’s all been very aboveboard. A great many people within the Methodist church believe in marriage equality, and so we’ve just been honored to facilitate and advance that conversation. And through initiatives like ‘We do!’, we look forward to doing a great deal more of this in the future.”
“How did your church take this radical move on your part?” I asked her. I pictured the congregants of First and Summerfield United Methodist Church of New Haven, CT up on their feet, screaming, railing, gnashing their teeth, pulling their hair, threateningly brandishing rolled-up church bulletins. Lighting Frankenstein villager torches.
“They love it,” she said. “They’re a reconciling congregation, so they’ve been very excited about the whole project. In fact, I actually had to slow them down a bit. I had to explain to them how this is a process, how we needed to work within the larger body of the New York Annual Conference, to bring everyone along at the same time. But they’ve been absolutely supportive of this every step of the way.”
I was starting to feel TIME waving good-bye to me.
“You’re straight, right?” I asked lamely.
“Yes, I am. And married.”
“I don’t suppose you’re a transvestite from Transylvania, ” I almost asked before jamming my fist in my mouth. Instead, I asked her about where “We do!” fits in with the larger body of all Methodists. Rev. Lamar-Sterling then explained to me how there are different “conferences,” or regions, of Methodists, across the country, and how each, reflecting the sensibilities of its citizens, is necessarily dealing with the issue of marriage equality in its own way, and at its own speed.
“The same sort of thing we’re doing here in the NYAC is currently going on in eleven other Methodiest conferences,” she said. “The difference is that while their efforts are geared toward clergy only, ‘We do!’ involves clergy, laity, and congregations. That’s what makes what we’re doing so exciting. ‘We do!’ is a strong collective of faithful Christians people who have come together to affirm that a gay and lesbian couple have as much right to the sacred bond of holy matrimony as anyone else.”
The reverend then explained about how The Book of Discipline, which constitutes the law and doctrine of the United Methodist Church, is a living document, and not, as she put it, “a baseball bat for hurting others,” and how every four years (starting in 1784!) representatives of all the Methodists get together, talk about what’s in The Book of Discipline, make whatever changes or adjustments to its text are voted necessary, and then publish a new edition. As I am sure you read in the press release above, the next Methodist General Conference will be April 24 through May 4, 2012, in Tampa, Florida.
Boy, big American Christian denominations really put the organized in organized religion. It’s all so startlingly/boringly democratic. (Fact break: In the United States, The United Methodist Church ranks as the largest Mainline denomination, the second largest Protestant church after the Southern Baptist Convention, and the third largest Christian denomination. As of 2007, worldwide membership was about 12 million: 8.0 million in the United States and Canada, 3.5 million in Africa, Asia and Europe. So. There it is.)
“Ultimately, I and others who believe in the sanctity of marriage equality would like the language of The Book of Discipline to be changed to reflect full affirmation of gay and lesbian equality. But will those changes be made in 2012? They very well might. But either way, it will ultimately happen. I’m confident that Christ will guide the United Methodist Church to become the welcoming, just, and reconciling church it was meant to be.”
Finally, I asked Rev. Lamar-Sterling if there was anything she’d like to say to anyone reading this.
“I would like everyone to know,” she said, “that all people are created in God’s image; all are sacred. God’s love is not discriminatory, or selective; it does not include some, and exclude others. It is for all. I want gay and lesbian people to know that they are welcomed in the United Methodist Church. Come, join us, as we, along with you, say, we do!”
Boy. The Rev. Lamar-Sterling is one perky pastor. I would so go to her church.
As I later reflected back on my conversation with the good reverend, I fell asleep. I dreamed I was a Jimmy Olsen-style reporter, pitching to the editor of big New York news magazine the story of the “We do!” movement.
“Eight hundred!” I told him. “That’s a lot of Methodists!”
“Look, kid,” said the editor. He was sitting on a green leather high-backed chair behind a wooden desk you could land a helicopter on. He was gruff, but fair. Wore suspenders. But whatever.
“I ain’t saying this is no story at all,” he said around his chomped cigar. “But it isn’t exactly a four-ton reptile stomping down Broadway tossing cars and eating people, is it? I mean, whaddaya really have here? A bunch of Christians who looked into their hearts, found the God in whom they believe telling them that gay people have the same right to get married, under God, as straight people, and who then organized themselves into a body that reflects that belief. Right, kid?”
“Well, I mean–yeah. I guess that’s basically about right.”
“Right. Kid, that ain’t news. That’s Methodists organizing. This is about meetings, and procedures, and conversations, and collective discernment, and all of those things which slowly but surely have always changed, always improved, always evolved the body of Christ on earth.”
“Holy cow,” I said. “Who are you?”
“I’m God,” he said softly. “And things are unfolding exactly as they should.”
I looked out the window at a brilliant rainbow arcing over the city.
“Now if you come across any giant dinosaurs wreaking havoc,” said God, “you call me.”
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- Guest post: “A Good Week to Hate Christians”
- From gay-hating fundie to righteously angry lesbian. Now what?















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God has said clearly in His word that homosexuality is not just sinful – but it is an abomination. [Leviticus:20:13] “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.”
In the New Testament, the Apostle Jude prophesied (by the Spirit of God) – and predicted certain things that will happen in the Church itself.
“…. I felt forced to write you because some men have come in secretly. I am begging you to fight for the faith which God passed on to the holy people once for all time. These men don’t want God. Long ago it was written that they would be condemned. They are turning away from the gracious love of our God to orgies and unclean sexual activity, rejecting Jesus Christ, our only Lord and Master. [Jude:1:4 Message Bible]
Notice that these men reject the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ (as taught in the Bible) and choose instead sexual orgies and unclean sexual activity.)
The Apostle Paul’s letter to the church at Ephesus said much the same about these individuals:
“When they lost all feeling of shame, they gave themselves over to sensuality, so that they could try every kind of unclean sex, wanting more and more of such things. [Ephseians:4:19 Simple English Bible]
And exactly what does the Bible (God’s infallible word) say about the result will be for these individuals?
“However, people who are cowards, unbelievers, perverts, murderers, sexual sinners, those who follow occult practices, idol-worshipers, and all liars will be in the lake which burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death.” [Revelation 21:8]
The truth of the matter is this, no matter what one may choose to believe, it does not change the truth from being truth – nor does it cancel it out.
Just because one chooses not to believe in the existence of gravity does not cause gravity to cease to exist. And, the same thing applies to the truth of God’s word on the subject of homosexuality as taught in the Bible.
Your position causes gay kids to kill themselves which you don’t care about enough. Their blood is on the hands of those of you who continue to interpret the Bible in this literal way, perverting it. You are the one who is in danger spiritually, not gay men and women and certainly not the Christians who are protecting them from you.
Spoken like a true, nonthinking, unloving fundamentalist. Tell us something we HAVEN’T heard a million times from haters like you.
Ya’ know?
good job, M.
Funny. You post this as if you believe that somehow no one here has seen or heard this before. As if it is BIG. IMPORTANT. NEWS!!!
No. It is just the old, tired, outdated, misunderstood, political interpreting of parables that is slowly but surely being exposed for just that, so that Christians can get back to their real faith, living as Jesus taught.
The fact that you compare the “Truth” from God – as in, YOUR incorrect interpretation – to gravity, an easily provable and scientifically demonstrable phenomenon of the universe, shows, without any doubt, that you are utterly incapable of critical thought and therefore failing to use the gift of intellect given to you by your God. Sad for you. More sad for those you hurt with your nonsense.
Your beliefs are slowly going the way of the beliefs that slavery was justifiable and women shouldn’t wear shoes. I hope, for your sake and the sake of those you damage with your words, that you manage to catch up to reality some day soon.
I love seeing the Jude one brought out. The term used is “strange flesh” (Brian here must be using a more interpretive translation). The reference is to men having sex with angels (the strange being angelic flesh) – the Bible has some weird stuff in it. Anyways, the irony is that the Greek here for strange means different, like hetero, the opposite being same, homo. Without the angel bit, the message would be that straight sex is wrong because the two fleshly bodies involved *aren’t similar enough*. The whole point is that, in sex, those engaging in it should be sufficiently similar (i.e. not too different). This criteria, if taken to an extreme, would actually put beasitality on the opposite side of the spectrum as gay sex (with straight sex in the middle…). So, it always cracks me up to see people use Jude. It’s arguing for the exact oppose criteria of the people who use it.
I know, right?? Homophobes and others who think gay is a sin always quote that passage. They’re the ones with the itchy ears–picking and choosing which of Jesus’ commandments to follow, such as helping the poor and oppressed.
Brian, I will add one more thought, and I say this with compassion. Those who protest the most and the loudest are quite often those hating outwardly what they most hate about themselves.
My sincere wish for you would be that you stop saying ANYTHING about homosexuality and LGBTQ people in public or on the Internet and instead do some serious internal review and soul-searching. Because being this deathly afraid of something usually means that you fear it existing within yourself. And if it does? Then there is NOTHING wrong with you, except that you are living a lie. Be true yourself, and God will not love and cherish you one teeny bit less.
And it might not even be the fear of being gay that’s the issue here (though I certainly don’t rule out the possibility). Any kind of unconscious self-loathing can bring about such a hateful attitude. People like this point out what they perceive as faults %I say “perceive” because I don’t see being gay as a fault) and point fingers in order to distract from their own. Obviously doesn’t work. Either way, closet case or not, it’s an ugly cycle.
Yes.
As a United Methodist, I am so glad to see this happening! A similar thing has happened here in Minnesota, where my pastor was one of about 70 who stood up at the Annual Conference and proclaimed that they were willing to perform same-sex unions. The bishop hasn’t taken any action against them yet, but presumably would if they actually followed through. This may be the start of a real fight in the church, and I just hope and pray that inclusiveness prevails.
Makes me proud to be a Methodist. This has been a BIG fight in our church, and A LOT of people were upset with the decision a few years ago. Hopefully this WILL change at the convention. God bless her and her “team of 900″.
Thanks John. Enjoyed both your interviews today. That’s some hard hitting journalism there. Very provocative and insightful questions…. Thanks for showing this side of the UM church. Generally I’m proud to be one, even if we are so methodical that it sometimes makes me want to scream during one if the many many many committee meetings.
there is hope for my old church.I am UU now but was U Methodist most of my life.
I am glad to see this. I grew up in the United Methodist church and one of the reasons I left was because our pastor turned on his gay son. He died of AIDS later and never was reconciled with his father.
Hope this happens in my UMC. Not holding my breath.
Most of the time I’m proud to be United Methodist. Sometimes, I’m disappointed in my denomination, but at least we keep trying to get it right, and we try to keep Christ’s teaching at the center of what we do. The pastor you interviewed exemplifies the finest we have to offer and this is one of those times I’m proud to be United Methodist. As a graduate of the Methodist Theological School in Ohio I’m honored to know many clergy who are very much like the woman you interviewed. Pray for the general conference later this month.
This is how I feel and ditto on the request for prayers …we need them.
Wow! Christians who exemplify Christ’s teachings! What a concept!
i haven’t been in a church (except for my dad’s wife’s funeral) in a decade or more. but i would go to this lady’s church.
I am a direct descendent of Ellen Hickox Stewart, a early woman Methodist preacher from New York and Ohio. She was on the cutting edge of the Methodist movment of her time – women’s rights, slavery, and no alcohol. She faced strong opposition by the male leadership of the church but “thumbed her nose” at them and continued forward in her quest.
I am pleased that the fire has not gone out of the Methodist pastors and they are willing to challenge church authority for what they see as the call of the Hebrew prophets and Jesus.
Mindy, Maybe since I have not read any other posts by Jack, you might be able to catch me up quickly on what “brand of Christianity” Jack promotes?
Also, what brand do you promote?
And then I have a simple question, (and definitely trying not to come across in anyway as being mean, because Christy called me on that before) What does the brand of Christianity you promote believe about Jesus? I hope that was not seen as a argumentative question in any way. Unlike before, i thought it better to actually listen to where people are coming from before trying to jump into their lives. Hopefully that is acceptable. Thanks in advance for sharing.
I’ll let Mindy answer for herself.
For me, it is often the question that tends to illuminate more than the answer. You said: “What does the brand of Christianity you promote believe about Jesus?”
Herein lies the problem, for me. – Believe about Jesus. – Marcus Borg has written on this in his work “The Heart of Christianity;” and I have heard our UCC minister preach on this, and read similar points elsewhere: that out of a growing antagonistic relationship with and perceived threat from Science, Religion found it necessary to shift an inherently subjective religious experience (our relationship with God) toward a more objective (and measurable) one as evidenced by the phenomena of Post-Enlightenment Literalism which is a very understandably human reaction to our psyche’s need to deal with the discomfort of mystery and doubt and ambiguity inherent with all things ineffable and tried to make them measurable and observable and provable. Ergo: Certainty. And this is where, for me (and my historically illiterate self) I see Faith took a left turn at Albuquerque.
Doing some further digging I found that the original Greek word for believe has multiple possible translations, and confirming with a Greek scholar, has a more careful translated meaning: to follow. And that in the first century, Christians were known as Followers of The Way of Jesus (with disputes as to whether this is a reference to the Taoist understanding of The Way and how much influence Buddhist teaching and the Upanishads had made their way to the Middle East by then and where Jesus spent his time in the unaccounted for years prior to his ministry). So, in Post-Enlightenment Literalism, the Church – over a period of time – shifted Following the Way of Jesus to Belief about Jesus. A considerable difference if you ask me.
In this Post-Enlightenment realm, we lost the truth of myth; truth became only that which could be provable; and faith in the unseen and unprovable became belief in certain things having actually physically happened and being historically true, and efforts were undertaken to prove the “facts” of the Bible…..All of which influenced Biblical interpretation and encouraged more literal readings and Biblical inerrancy. The truth in myth and metaphor took a back burner and in some denominations were wiped out completely.
Thus the predominant versions of modern American Christianity have evolved into a faith based on the proper beliefs about Jesus (of which denominations fight regarding what should be included on that list) rather than a way of being in relationship with Jesus (God).
I take so passionately issue with the phrase – Belief about Jesus – because of my Fundamentalist rearing….. that has turned something beautiful – a deep possible experience of union with the Divine, here and now in this life, as lived out in a transformed way of being – into a whipping post to which they chain themselves and others where the self-righteous get to lord it over the lesser ones of how anything they do from the moment they cry their first cry to their dying breath is filthy and undeserving of grace, worthless not good-enoughness that only sufficient “proper genuine, fervent belief” (read unyielding convictions) can assuage and grant entrance into the pearly gates.
My Sunday School upbringing taught about head knowledge vs. heart knowledge. (Believing God exists vs. giving your heart and life to Christ as Lord and Savior of your life). This theology thinks a come to Jesus tearfully repentant recitation of the sinner’s prayer with genuine intention on the pray-ers part to commit to a life of becoming a keeper of God’s rules is evidence of “turning” from the old way to the new. But it is slavery to the same ego they had before for they have still bypassed and never internalized God’s love and true Grace. It’s still head knowledge: If I believe this and really mean it – I’m good to go. Repentance – true change – has not taken place on the heart level. It is still a works based faith anytime Grace is transactionally exchanged for proper belief and that is why I have trouble with the phrase “believe about Jesus.”
All of which is to say: We miss the heart of Jesus’ message when we focus on the letter of the law and miss the Spirit. I agree with the Greatest Commandment as does Rabbi Hillel of the first century. The Golden Rule is the heart of the matter. The rest is commentary. Go and study.
You can have faith that your beliefs about Jesus are true, but without works, those beliefs are dead, and without a transformed heart of love compelling those works – without the overflowing understanding of being so filled with God’s love and grace for us that we can’t help but show love and grace for others – those works are as a tinkling cymbal and a sounding brass. Inner transformation has nothing to do with proper belief. My mystical leanings and John’s closet conversion and Rumi and countless others point to a personal knowing (gnowing) of the Divine manifested in one’s life.
Writer Steve McSwain articulates this well here: http://redroom.com/member/dr-steve-mcswain/blog/the-reality-of-god-manifesting-in-your-daily-life-ram-dass-and-eckhart-tolle#.TqXVmWxEd2g.twitter
RelevantPeach, I don’t promote any brand of Christianity. I was raised in a non-denominational Christian Church, then the UCC, but no longer consider myself Christian. I have a strong belief in God, and I believe that Jesus was the first and best teacher of spiritual character. My comment to Jack was in direct response to the tired and spiteful attitude of “Christianity is not about being nice or life being easy, it is about sacrifice and the hard work of following God’s rules.” As if us non-Christians have it easy because of our lack of moral character, or we eschew Christianity because we’re not willing to “do the work.”
People like that, who view the Bible as the infallible final word on every possible choice seem to me, frankly, to be the lazy ones. They don’t have to waste all that precious time thinking. They are told what to do, what to believe, and they follow without ever questioning. They don’t consider how they rhetoric affects others – all that matters to them is eternity, so they selfishly hold out for a ticket to heaven at the expense of a whole lot of innocent and wonderful people who do not deserve the bigotry they spew, wrapped up all pretty in the Bible so it can’t possibly be bad.
\\“Are you bummed” I began with Rev. Lamar-Sterling, “about having to go to hell forever?”
She laughed. “Gosh, I hope that doesn’t happen. But I’m not worried about it. Hell is a creative idea dreamed up by Dante and friends.”\\
Apparently the Rev. Mrs. Lamar-Stirling knows Italian literature better than the Bible. Hell IS mentioned a few times in the latter, after all. (I’m not saying she’s going there, just pointing out her error.)
\\She definitely seemed nice.\\
As I’ve said elsewhere on many occasions, being a Christian is NOT about being “nice” and passing out warm fuzzies. C. S. Lewis had a whole chapter about this in MERE CHRISTIANITY in the chapter “Nice people or new men?”
Jack? Take a nap.
Your brand of Christianity is definitely not about being nice. That doesn’t mean your brand of Christianity is right.
Sorry, that comment above from me was supposed to be under here, and was supposed to be a conversation starter. Thanks.
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