Anyone still clinging to the idea that “ex-gay” ministries are anything but cruel absurdities would do very well to read this letter sent to me last week.
Hi John,
I have been carrying around my story for a long time. It broke my spirit and certainly altered my life, but seemed of little significance to anyone else. But now I think it might be a useful testimony in the big debate happening around us. I would like to add it to the tales on your site.
I was a keen early 20-something in a happening fundamentalist church: lots of love, fellowship, good people and good vibes. I met, had great chemistry with, and fell deeply in love with an up-and-coming member of that church. We talked, shared, connected. He told me what any girl is waiting to hear: “I’ve never felt this way about any other girl … never had this connection … never felt so understood …”.
My nice young man also had a secret that he shared with me. He “had been” attracted to men, and had experienced physical contact with them. He had also been to every possible kind of Christian ministry to rid himself of this “problem.” He would n.e.v.e.r. at that time refer to himself as gay or homosexual. He viewed himself as person with a sexual inclination that needed to be cured/retrained.
The drive to “cure” him came from himself and the pulpit, not his parents. He was taught by the church to find causes, and to lay blame.
I accompanied him to some of his “You Can Overcome Your Gayness” meetings and counseling sessions. At that time I accepted some of the theories such ministries pedal that I have since come to reject, such as:
• His mother had been too protective. Big big yawn: she was a lovely lady who loved each of her children just right.
• His father too distant. Not! The man was always there, physically and emotionally.
• His parents’ marriage was not a good example. Give me a break. They are one of those inseparable and affectionate couples, even after decades. But those so-called counselors found stones to throw at them anyway.
• His parents rejected him. They most certainly did not. Not over this, and not over anything else. They accepted him before he accepted himself.
• Girls at school had been mean to him and turned him off women. Well what comes first: the boy living a lie, or the girls who can see that?
• He had been introduced/seduced into ‘the lifestyle.’ Or he had known what he wanted since he was six years old, and he was ready when the opportunity came along.
So despite that he had excellent, loving parents, had always felt toward guys the way he did, and that no one had ever “turned him,” he still believed that his sexual inclination was “learned,” and that the right system for “unlearning” them was out there somewhere. I believed in miracles too, so I was also confident that such a system or influence would come along.
Meanwhile, the spark he felt for me never quite grew into a flame. But it was more than he had ever felt for any other female, so he believed that I was part of his answer. He pulled me close emotionally, and then shut me out—and then pulled me back again. What I didn’t know the whole time was that he was also falling off the wagon on a regular basis: gay porn, physical encounters, and even long-term relationships with men.
Throughout it all he continued seeking help from ex-gay ministries, and from the leadership of our own church. He told them everything—and told me nothing. Everyone but I knew what was happening with him. But they wanted him to “succeed,” and they viewed me as one of the routes to that success. So they joined with him in deceiving me. So what if my physical health was at risk from a partner having a string of affairs? So what if they were telling me to stay in a situation that they knew was not what I thought it was? I did not matter to them: they had an ex-gay to save; and I was “just a girl.”
Was I willfully blind with what was happening to him, plain stupid, or a victim of circumstance? I had a good degree from a top university, but it didn’t include courses on detecting a man’s double life. Belonging to a hellfire and brimstone church with organized activities on every holiday limited my opportunities to grow in worldly knowledge at all, much less develop any sort of effective gaydar. And being in a church that was really strict on chastity kept one litmus test out of our lives.
Am I or was I angry with him? Not so much with him. I see us both as victims. But that does bring me to the people with whom I am angry. Every authority figure told me to stay in the relationship. All the books and tracts I was reading (many since discredited) told me to put up with it and stay. I loved him. He told me to go; then he asked me to stay. My conscious mind and emotions were on board; I signed up for staying. My subconscious was stressed but had a hard time getting itself heard.
Eventually he cracked, and told me all that was really happening with him. As I sadly pulled myself out of our relationship, I found no one within my own church who was at all interested in being there for me. There was a general stampede of support for him, while I was clearly considered some sort of failure.
I tried another church for a while, but I was very wounded. This was not the only issue in my life, but eventually I lost my faith and drifted away.
Over time I maintained contact and friendship with my gay ex-boyfriend. For years he was stuck in the pattern of denying his sexuality to himself and others, while indulging it in secret physical binges. Dropped from the ministry, eventually cast out of at least one more church, he persisted in believing about himself that most poisonous of mantras: “Hate the sin but love the sinner.”
Really?
• Hate your blue eyes, but love you.
• Hate your love of classical music, but love you.
• Hate the way you eat, but love you.
• Hate your short legs, but love you.
• Hate your skin tone, but love you.
•Hate your laugh, but love you.
Really?
It took him longer than me to figure out that he was born that way and that there was no changing it. His tragedy was indeed greater than mine. Emotionally, he was stuck in late adolescence/early twenties—the time at which his friends had either accepted themselves and come out, or discovered girls and gotten involved. He could do neither, so he was stuck, stuck, stuck, with both paths into emotional maturity closed to him.
Over the years I revisited and saw in a different light the scriptures that I had been told were so absolute. I added new ones to my understanding. I get it when President Obama says his views evolved; it took a good twenty years for mine to do so. Part of it was questioning which verses mattered in which contexts, and part of it was just observing over time those people that I had met in the ex-gay meetings with my ex-boyfriend. Not one of them was able to keep living the lie for twenty-five years. They wanted to—they really wanted to. But they just could not. Anyone can deny, control and contain their sexuality for a few days, weeks or a couple of months. Some people can keep a lid on it for many months or a few years. But no one can deny the truth about themselves for decades. No one.
Over the years I also watched the man with whom I’d initially been involved. It took him a long time, but as we entered our forties he finally allowed himself to accept the welcome and teachings of a church that accepted him as he is. I was delighted when he finally allowed love into his life—when he declared himself to be in a true partnership, when he came out to everyone. His coming out was hardly news to any of us, of course. We’d all known and accepted him long before he accepted himself.
Ex-girlfriends, boyfriends, and spouses are collateral damage of the “ex-gay” self-appointed counselors and ministries. But that group occupies a poor third place on that podium of misery. At least we “partners” get to pick ourselves up, limp away and put our lives back together.
Second place goes to all the regular fathers and normal mothers who get blamed for their children’s sexual orientation. A double twist of that knife is that many of them are taught to reject their own children. Parents whose children are alienated from them through these bag-of-accusatory-lies ministries do not get to start over with another child.
And the gold medal of pain, of course, goes to the “ex-gays” themselves.
The question I would like to ask pastors and counselors who work in ex-gay ministries is: How would you feel if your own heterosexual child was about to marry someone deemed “ex-gay”?
Would you really believe in that marriage? Would you really be confident that your child was heading into a partnership of honesty, truth, passion and happiness? Would you really feel good about that marriage?
Really?
Speaking of ex-gay ministries: As Exodus’s Alan “Pray Away the Gay” Chambers ties his tongue in a knot …

















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My opinion is that sexual orientation is largely genetic, although I have one Christian friend who believes it can be “cured” or “arrested.” After reading this article, the takeaway I leave with is whether she’d want her own daughter to marry a “cured” gay male. If she were honest, she’d say, ‘no’ and we’d all know why.
JA
I find that this letter sheds a lot of light on a great many truths about the church. I have always found it interesting how people love to focus on another’s sins and try to “cure” them of these sins when having a closet full themselves. I personally do not agree with the lifestyles of those who are gay; however, I would never force my views or beliefs on another individual. Nor would I judge them, try to alienate them, steal away rights, or treat them any less than any other human being deserves. Personally I find that I have too many of my own sins to deal and contend with than to worry about another’s. Would I be available to listen and be a friend, yes…absolutely! I find it even sadder than the church felt that it was their mission to “cure” this man and failed to see all the harm and sins they were committing with their behavior in the matter. I will personally be so happy when Jesus walks the earth again and puts a lot of people in their rightful places.
Being gay is not a sin. Period. Dot. It is a random genetic trait. It is not a “lifestyle”.
Once you figure that out, you won’t have to hurt your arm patting yourself on the back for being so tolerant. I know you and some others here will probably think I’m being too harsh, but as a garden-variety gay man I am offended when somebody boasts about how open-minded they are at the same time they say they don’t approve of me and that they are too focused on their own “sins” to focus on my “sins”. My sexuality is not a sin.
Period. Dot.
First of all Gordon to apologize that you confused my meaning of sin to automatically assume I was speaking about being gay; however, that was not at all the case. I was referencing the lying which to me is a great sin and just destructive to people and our lives in general. Second I am not going to back down by saying that I don’t agree or have the same views regarding being gay that you have, but this is true about a number of things. In fact you will find in life people do not always agree or see eye to eye. Period. Dot. However my point in my post was to show that despite me not agreeing does not mean I have a hatred or want to condemn anyone and I do not understand anyone who feels the need to do so. We can all disagree and still should be able to live in harmony, peace, and love. I am sorry that you are offended, but if you spend your life being offended by people with differences of opinions than yours then you will be offended just about every second of everyday because people disagree all the time about various of things not just about being gay. I am too focused on my own sins as well as my own life to try to spend my time hating and destroying others. Also I do not pat myself on the back for being human, I just try to love and consider my friends and family I meet through this love as my reward. Perhaps you should not be so quick to be harsh because someone has a difference of opinion.
But your “opinion,” Shea, is a long, long way from benign. You believe that being gay is, in and of itself, a sinful affront to God. That ignorant, hateful lie destroys thousands of lives every single goddamn day.
This isn’t a difference of opinion. Facts are not opinions. Is a racist misogynistic man who believes black women are inferior to him expressing an opinion? Of course not. Is someone who “disagrees” with black people marrying white people just expressing their right to their own opinion? No. Once a person accepts the FACT that being gay is genetic and not some “lifestyle choice” all of the justification for your “not agreeing with the lifestyles of those who are gay” simply dissolves. Your position no longer makes any sense. It never did, actually. Just like when one realizes no race and no gender is superior to another illuminates the vile, hateful and murderous evil of racism and misogyny.
You have inadvertently exposed something in yourself that is most certainly a lifestyle choice: You have chosen to not approve of gay people being gay. You’ve covered that ugly thing with creepy candy-coating in what you call “not judging,” trying not to alienate us, not stealing away our rights or treating us any less than any human deserves. Well, thanks a lot. We sure do appreciate that.
Again when the hell have I stated why I do not agree with begin gay. iIt has nothing to do with my religious beliefs because I don’t presume to speak for God as everyone eLse does, I speak for me. And there are millions of gotdamn mistruths with religious people that ruin livrs gayes are not the only ones suffering because of this. Now if you would prefer I lie or become hateful towards people I don’t agree with I can work on that but I refuse to change me or my thoughts simply because you want it your way or no way. Sorry that is bullshut and if what I sad hurt someone then that is pretty sad and they need to develop a thicker skin and better understanding.
Wow.
Yeah…I think I’ll stop here. I don’t think our decks have the same number of cards. Peace be unto you.
This letter keeps coming to the front of my mind. I could so easily have been that guy, though my church was likely too homophobic for some of this to play out as it did for the writer and her friend. I do remember the constant pressure to marry that single men faced in the church. I also remember the pastor preaching from the pulpit that as far as he was concerned, the only reason for a man to remain single was if he was physically deformed(war injury to the groin), or he had decided to become a eunoch(castration anyone?). The crowd always loved it when the pastor got sassy, and they were all over this one.
It wasn’t all about sexuality, though there was always speculation about the sexuality of long time single people. Marriage is a very efficient way to tie people to the church. It’s pretty hard to leave or change your mind once you are married to the daughter of a deacon.
Beautifully and powerfully written. Thank you so much for sharing this letter. In my coming out process I discovered the abuse I’ve encountered in the church….though it is not nearly as destructive as this letter shares….it was and is still a source of pain. And yet I not only remain in the church….I continue to be a minister. My calling is to remain is to remain in the chruch….but to be honest with myself and others how dreadful the church has been to the LGBTQ community. So I share my story, I offer unconditional hospitality and grace and I stand in the face of continued judgement and condemnation.
The church has a lot of forgiving to do. The church has a lot of hospitality to offer.
Thank you again….
for the courage to write these words.
I’m confused. How was your health at risk?
If the person you’re sleeping with is sleeping with others, your health is at risk.
That’s obvious, but it should also be obvious that pre-marital sex is a no-no in fundamentalist churches, so it seems like there was more going on than the writer of this letter is willing to admit.
Yes, she’s obviously hiding something. How dare she.
Sheesh, buddy.
Man, people can find stuff to complain about.
You don’t have to have sex to catch an STD orally (hello, sex ed). And, at least in my fundamentalist upbringing, kissing wasn’t off-limits (as long as it didn’t go any further than that). So, whether they were or were not having sex, her health was at risk.
exactly.
And even if all they were doing during their courtship was holding hands, it’s still clear that the church was encouraging them in marriage while knowing full well that he had engaged in sex outside of their relationship–and some of those STDs have a long shelf life.
The letter writer is not required to give us a full accounting of her physical relationship with her boyfriend. It’s none of our business. And to speculate about it is sort of creepy.
She loved the guy and was put through hell and treated pretty awful as a result. That’s the point of her extremely eloquent letter to John.
You’re absolutely right. The point you’ve just made is extremely apt.
I needed to condense it down an essay here; could not write a detailed multi chapter biography. I loved him and wanted to get married. The church leaders wanted to be able to stamp a big old ‘Success!’ all over his situation, so they were pushing marriage (can we say ‘chattel’?) and he wanted to be ‘normal’, with marriage as the ultimate goal. So, we were all talking about ‘aiming towards’ a marriage which would have put me in bed with a man with multiple partners. That is why I say they were unconcerned about my physical health. And my emotional health. And my spiritual health.
The lack of concern anyone had for you, your well being and your safety is really staggering. All I can say is that I’m really sorry this happened and I am SO glad you didn’t marry that tortured soul of a man. I know him well. xoxo
As a gay man, my heart goes out for you and all the others who have suffered so much. Do not blame yourself for what happened, you did the best you could with a level of knowledge insufficient to comprehend what was being done to you. The church leaders treated you as a whore, essentially, as a disposable person to be discarded after use. You are right to feel great anger towards them; but for your own sake do not let it ruin your life. You seem to have a lot more going for yourself, especially in that you are willing to do the hard work to educate yourself way beyond what was originally given you. If it is your desire, I hope you find (or better, have found) someone suitable for you and go on to a wonderful life.
I was fortunate to have wonderful parents who adopted me as an infant. I was born in the way-way-back of 1948. I can’t say that I had any attraction sexually to others before I was 10; I was an introspective, bookish child. But at puberty, it was pretty quickly clear to me that what I wanted as my “special friend, with whom I could share all of my delights”, was a boy. Later, in High School, I dated a beautiful, bright young lady, and really hoped my same-sex attraction was just a (lengthy by then) phase, as I could well imagine her as a life-mate “if only” sexual attraction would just happen. But it didn’t, and finally in college I met other gay men furtively peeking out of the woodwork, and had people I could talk with and explore my feelings.
As soon as I was clear that it wasn’t a phase, I came out to my parents, and told my girlfriend (and her parents, who were wonderful people, too). She did get married later, and is the mom of two sons. I am just so thankful I didn’t do her any harm, because she certainly didn’t deserve to be ill-treated. In fact, I just might have saved her from some harm if she had dated other boys who might have tried to take advantage of her before she was ready to cope with such. I was a date who respected her, and we had nice times together.
In any case, sorry to go on so long, but I do feel some resonances in our lives and wanted to share them. The very best to you.
Wow. Thanks for this powerful testimony, Arist. beautiful.
Didn’t go through ex-gay stuff, but I relate very strongly to this since I was in such powerful denial for a long time and then suffered brutal rejection by my family when I stopped (we speak and visit, but that whole part of me is never discussed or acknowledged; in some ways it’s worse than being in the closet). Particularly being emotionally “caught” in the past. I’m starting to slowly break away, but from time to time the cost of what I’ve lost catches up to me, and it’s all I can do to put one foot in front of the other. Those times are growing fewer, but no less painful. I spent a long time nursing rage and bitterness over it, until that nearly killed me in other ways.
I wish them both all the love, healing and joy their lives can withstand.
John, where do you find these cool pictures? This one is great.
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