The Bible vs. the bottle

by John Shore on October 16, 2012 in Relationships · 59 comments

I was raised in a Christian family, and have professed my faith since I was a young child. I was also homeschooled in the middle of nowhere, with my only socialization being in the church and youth group I grew up in. As you can imagine, I was a very sheltered child.

Because of this, I was extremely shy, withdrawn and anti-social. I waited until I was 21 to move out of my parents’ home. (I did not go to college because of an accident my parents were in when I graduated: I stayed living at home, working to be able to pay them rent to help them out for a while). When I moved out I remained anti-social for quite a while. I had very few friends that I talked to, and pretty much stayed in my shell until I was 23. That is when I had my first boyfriend, started drinking with friends and going out to bars, etc.

During this time of trying to “find and define” myself, I experienced a very traumatic event that left me scarred; probably for life in some aspects. Because of that, I simply stopped following God for quite a while.

When I was 24 I met the man who is now my husband. He is not a Christian, is a borderline alcoholic, and a pretty much just plain apathetic. We did move in together 10 months before we got married, simply did a court house wedding, and really had nothing monumental to mark the day that we married. I knew what kind of man he was before marrying him, in regard to his alcohol use, and his apathy, but was hoping (and I KNEW at the time that the hope was a stupid thing to have) that he might grow out of it or change.

Fast forward to two years later, and I’m slightly at odds. Not only am I struggling with how much and how often he drinks (not to mention the stupid stuff that happens because he drinks), but I am also struggling with the lack of intimacy in my marriage. My husband is quite fine if we only have sex once a month (as a matter of fact he prefers that, because he says that he is not sexually driven in any way), but he does not supplement the dry times with any other kind of real intimacy. So, we are lacking a physical connection, but also an emotional connection because he does not choose to offer it. I have talked with him numerous times, told him how he has been making me feel because of his refusal to engage in any intimacy, even threatened to leave him because I am tired of feeling like his mom. Every time I have that discussion with him, he will relent (and I really mean relent) and have sex with me, and make everything seem better for a total of 10 hours. Then everything goes back to the way it was.

I guess I’ve been hoping that he would fight for me, and he really hasn’t. The problem recently is how much he has been drinking. The past few weeks he has gotten so drunk that he can’t remember his weekend, nor will he have any leftover energy to spend with me doing anything besides sitting at home and playing video games. He will have friends over during these drinking fests, and I have come home to find out that they have had the fire department called on them for having a bonfire in the back yard, window damage for them falling into the windows, and worst of all, random episodes where someone during these fests will “forget” where the bathroom is, or where the toilet is, and I am left with random urine messes.

My husband’s never hit me, never gotten abusive in any way, shape, or form. But he’s also never really tried to meet me in the middle on anything regarding intimacy or his drinking. And after the last couple of drinking nights of his, I have really felt like a mother having to care for a petulant child.

I also feel like a horrible wife because I don’t want his friends at my house anymore. I’m really tired of it all. I know that I should not be looking for a way out of a marriage that I went into with my eyes wide open to all the issues, and as long as he is willing to live with me I should stay (1st Corinthians 7:12-13), but I know that if I were to leave, he would not fight to keep me. Even if I were to just go stay with a friend for a night or two away, he will resign himself to us divorcing because of it, even if I assure him that is not the case. I am too emotionally invested to try and view all this in a logical fashion, and I really don’t know what to do. I don’t want to leave him, I don’t want him to feel as if I am being unreasonable, and I do not know how to deal with this. Is there any advice you can give at all?

First, I don’t think your husband is a “borderline” alcoholic. I think he’s a full-blown, 100%  alcoholic.

And you’re not “slightly at odds.” You’re in a horrendous marriage that at this point you’re pretty sure isn’t salvageable.

And it’s not true that your husband has “never gotten abusive in any way, shape, or form.” The man is okay with you cleaning up piss left by his friends in your house. How could he debase you (or himself) any further?

And listen: you’d be hard-pressed to say a crazier thing than, “As long as he is willing to live with me I should stay.” What the fuck is that? That’s not true. You quoted 1st Corinthians 7:12-13—but forgot the very next verse: “For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife.” Does your husband strike you as sanctified? If he is, I’m Pope John Paul the I Don’t Think So.

Trust me: Paul would not want you being treated as your husband treats you. And if you can’t believe that, you can surely believe that Jesus loves you too much to be okay with you being as unhappy as you are.

If ever you find yourself using the Bible as a justification for keeping yourself down, know one thing: you’re defying and insulting God. Stop doing that. Stop making God a party to your subjugation, which I guarantee you grieves him.

Do you know what part of your whole letter I find by far the most troubling? It’s when you call yourself a “horrible” wife because you don’t want your husband’s fire-starting, window-breaking, randomly pissing white-trash “friends” to come over to your house anymore. That concerns me. Because that tells me that at your core you believe that you don’t really deserve a life any or much better than the one you’re living. Which means you’re terribly unlikely to ever have one.

Sister, you do deserve a better life than the one you’re leading. But only you can make that better life for yourself. Which sucks. We sooooo want to believe that daddy, or our spouse, or God, or Cosmic Justice, or something that isn’t actually us will magically swoop in and bestow upon us the life we know we deserve.

And we wait and wait and wait and wait and wait for that to happen. And if waiting is all we do we die filled with that longing still in us, having never lived a life that we didn’t know was embarrassingly beneath us.

Ugh. Get out. You. Right now. Go pack some shit. Prepare to exit. Gather your finances. Make a plan, stick to it, and exit stage you’ve-done-the-right-thing. (About all this sort of thing please read my book below. If you can’t afford it or whatever, let me know.)

You know why so many people erroneously believe that the Bible says that God helps those who help themselves? Because we all know how true that is. It should be in the Bible. God definitely pitches in once we roll up our sleeves and actually do something to improve the life of ourselves or anyone else. But before then? Before then all he can do is acquiesce to our manifest desire to keep things exactly as they are.

Sweetheart, you got the man you married. And now you have exactly two choices: You either keep and continue to live in the marriage you have, or you change your life for the better. That’s it. You either pick a lane, or life will pick one for you.

And there’s only one way your life is ever going to change, and that’s if your husband admits, today, that he is an alcoholic, and takes a clear and positive step to stop drinking. If he does that, you might actually have a freakin’ man on your hands instead of barn animal you couldn’t give away. If not, then you need to leave him to his bottles, and go get a new life for yourself.

Alcoholics don’t change unless they get extremely hardcore about changing. You can’t whine, plead, beg, or bitch an alcoholic into stopping drinking. Only the alcoholic can stop him or herself from choosing the bottle over anything and everyone else. Trying to get an alcoholic to do what you want them to do is like trying to stop a tidal wave from moving toward the shore. All you do is drown.

Talk to your husband. Wait until he’s sober, and then sit him down and tell him that if he doesn’t, right then and there, admit that he’s an alcoholic who needs to stop drinking, and then do something real to show he means it, then you are going to leave him. And make sure he understands that if he says he’s going to stop drinking, but then doesn’t, you’ll be gone before he’s swallowed his first pull on his bottle.

Don’t be angry about it. Don’t be accusatory. Just let him know that you’ve decided that it’s you or the bottle—and that you’ll understand if he chooses the bottle. Lots of people make that exact choice every day. It’s his call. He can have you, or he can have booze. But he can’t have both.

Good luck with this. I hope he chooses you. But if he doesn’t, tell him where you keep the mop and kiss him good-bye. And then get busy creating a new life for yourself that doesn’t include him. The excellent news for you is that you’re very young. You’ve got your whole life ahead of you. And now you’re so much wiser than you were before you married.

If wisdom came cheaply, everyone would have it. But you’ve paid for the wisdom soon to be yours. So now you’re good to go.

It’s a big, bright, happy world out there. Go get you some of it.

God is with you. Always.


 

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LU October 29, 2012 at 12:29 pm

Dear Writer,

I don’t know you, but I am so sorry to hear of your situation. I’d love to hear what happens next, and hope very much that you take John’s advice. I wish you all the very best, and pray you find joy and peace in whatever lies ahead.

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Janet October 27, 2012 at 2:55 pm

My husband is at the bar, so I have a minute for the first time since this was posted to respond. My situation is almost exactly like yours.
You are not a bad wife. I thought that the first years of our marriage, then I realized it’s not me, it’s him. Divorce is not the unpardonable sin, and I feel ok with God in planning one now.
His first wife left him because of intimacy issues, and he has a poor relationship with a grown son because of those issues with him, as well.
Plan to leave. Then have the talk, because he is 90% likely to refuse to admit he is alcoholic. If he does admit it, he will most likely drink in secret. For awhile.
You want a plan in place, because when you have this talk with him, you must follow through on the consequences of his continued drinking. I doubt he will care about you enough to make a change. No addict can love another when they are loving their drug of choice.
Think also of the financial and legal danger being married to him can put you in. DUI’s are not cheap. You will spend several years driving him everywhere. The cost of legal fees might have to be put on credit cards, which you will have to split in the event you do divorce (depending on your State laws). He could fall and incur medical bills. As he ages, he is at risk for alcoholic-related disease, such as sudden-onset dementia. Think you are taking care of him now?
You mention his video games, but I’ll bet my bottom dollar that you aren’t mentioning an Internet porn addiction. That comes with the territory of intimacy issues.
Oops, I may sound like I am telling you what to do. I hope you chose to leave. I have a standing offer from three friends who will take me and the pet in when I leave. Get a safety deposit bos (very inexpensive) or a secret on-line account and start putting away every $20 bill you can. Decide what you can and cannot live without of your possessions. Have a travel bag packed and hidden. This may sound extreme, but you really must be ready to go if he doesn’t stop drinking.
Actaully, now that I write that, it doesn’t matter if he stops. Alcohol is a symptom, not the issue, which is the inability to be emotionally intimate. It is very lonely, where we are. Please think seriously about cutting your losses and going. Remember, you may not love him as much as you love the idea of him – the times he’s fun, or nice, or funny. But that’s not really him.
May Jesus guide you.

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Kelly Withee via Facebook October 20, 2012 at 7:44 am

John is right. Leave him. You deserve better. God bless you.

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charlie wooten October 19, 2012 at 12:16 am

I have a question for John also about drinking too much but from a different point of view and perspective. I don’t care if it makes the website I just want some advice. I got a concussion about 4 years ago and drinking is the only way I can get any sleep. I don’t want to be a alcoholic but I think this has turned me into one.

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roger flyer October 17, 2012 at 3:51 pm

home schooled, innocent christian girl meets sexually abused boy. :(

John Shore is the Dear Abby for the new milennium..
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Matt October 17, 2012 at 7:16 pm

Nowhere in the letter does it say her husband was sexually abused. There’s been some baseless labelling and diagnosing of LW’s husband in this thread–let’s focus on her, because we don’t know him.

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Elizabeth October 17, 2012 at 9:29 pm

You nailed it. She’s the focus. Maybe for the first time ever.

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LW October 18, 2012 at 3:50 am

How dare you!?

I wrote to John to finally express what I have not told ANYONE, not even my closest friends or family, and to ask for advice. Most of the comments received here have been very positive, up lifting and useful. Your comment, however, really pisses me off.

Yes, my husband was abused by an alcoholic father growing up. Yes, he has had a very rough time reconciling and moving on from his past. But to have the nerve to just assume and throw out there that he was sexually abused is absolutely positively infuriating. You do not know him. You do not know his past. You do not know what he is or who he has become through his struggles.

Please do not read into this assuming that I am defending him for his actions, nor justifying myself for staying in this marriage. I am simply calling you out for the BS, lowlife, condescending remark that you somehow have ALL the answers as to who we are. Please keep your inane, ignorant perceptions to yourself.

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Stuck October 17, 2012 at 11:31 am

This sounds all too familiar to me. Although some of the details are different, I too feel stuck in a marriage with a man who is not capable of emotional intimacy, is a workaholic, and consistently critical and demeaning. We’ve been in therapy for years now, and though there have been periods of small progress, it’s really not getting better. I feel responsible to stay and help him work through these issues because I made a vow to support him for life, but I am weary of the constant fighting and lack of emotional support and connectedness. I see him building up a tolerance to alcohol as he drinks to cope with issues he won’t admit or can’t see, and my attempts express concern or ask for what I need from him to feel closer are met with anger, guilt trips, and justifications. But he’s not a terrible guy, which makes it harder to leave. He does care about people, works hard, and has a great sense of humor, and at times he can be sweet and show me briefly how kind and caring he can be…but he is also a hot head, is confrontational with strangers, and has trouble in relationships with others, so it’s not just me. But I am not them, I am his wife, and I don’t take that lightly. The very thought of divorce makes me feel so guilty, concerned about what others will say, particularly our Christian friends…which is not a reason to stay in a marriage, I know. There is no more romance, but I have a sliver of hope that things could improve, but if they do I’m pretty confident it would take several more years, and I don’t know that I have it in me to fight for our marriage that much longer. I don’t expect marriage to be easy, but should it be this hard?

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Allie October 17, 2012 at 3:09 pm

So, when you say there is small progress, what exactly do you mean by that? I’m all for staying as long as he’s still trying. But if he’s not trying, if YOU are trying and trying to pretend that he’s trying or might someday try, then leave.

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Stuck October 18, 2012 at 8:18 am

Small progress means periods of improved behavior when he is nicer, not condescending, demeaning or controlling…but it never lasts because those are symptoms of bigger issues he can’t face and is still avoiding in therapy. I can’t make him deal with the real problems, and I know if I leave that the same issues are going to keep resurfacing in his next relationships, romantic or otherwise, and I feel a sense of responsibility to see him through this…but I honestly do not know if he will ever get to the point of being able to face the reality at the core of the issues, or if he does, how long that will take. There is emotional and psychological abuse going on, and thankfully I have several supports while going through this…but I can’t do this forever. I’m exhausted and don’t know when I should or can decide I’ve given enough and it’s ok to not have to live this way any more. Essentially, I probably need to determine where the line is between being a dedicated wife and being codependent.

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Allie October 18, 2012 at 7:23 pm

It is NOT your responsibility to fix what you didn’t break.

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sb October 17, 2012 at 4:48 pm

Dear Stuck,

In your post, you name 4 of the 7 reasons why women stay in abusive relationships from John’s mini-book. Might be worth a read.
1: the challenge of having to create a new self image
2: the fear of the unknown
3: the fear of embarrassment
5: You love the lovable in him

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Valerie October 17, 2012 at 9:17 am

Dear Letter Writer,
Honey, get out. Get out now. If he doesn’t care enough to fight for you or about your feelings then get out there and find someone who does. Believe me when I say they exist but don’t hook up with the first guy you meet. You need some time to yourself for a while. You need to work on you and feel like you deserve to be happy before you can be happy in a couple. Just get out! Please get out!

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mike moore October 17, 2012 at 9:49 am

Valerie, I love what you wrote here. So concise. So loving.

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Lisa Hardgrove October 17, 2012 at 9:12 am

Dear writer, whether or not your stay in your marriage, you have been affected by your husband’s alcoholism. Please contact Al-Anon or AA, both can help you to find a meeting. It will feel weird to go – but please, please do this for yourself. These people have the ability and willingness to help you – and they UNDERSTAND.

You may find that your choices become much easier as you work on becoming a healthier person for yourself. And don’t worry about whether or not divorce is wrong – GOD knows your situation, better than you do, and HE FORGIVES ALL.

Good luck and God bless you!

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mike moore October 17, 2012 at 8:46 am

Dear letter writer, John’s response is spot on.

Abusers come in all shapes and sizes, and they don’t have to hit you to horribly abuse you. And, when I read your letter, it’s clear you are being horribly abused. I know, because my Mom took us away from an abuser like your husband.

I think you should divorce this guy and never look back.

If you do, have a plan in place, first: have some money put aside, even if it’s just a little; if you don’t already have a job, find one you will enjoy; have a place to go to when you walk out the door … a new house or apartment, or friends with whom you can live while getting yourself set up … or, be prepared to give him the boot out the door and let Mr Apathy find himself a new home.

A very hard part of this: line up a divorce attorney before telling your husband it’s over.

From the abuse you describe, you would probably be able to stay in your home with spousal support, as appropriate, but only a divorce lawyer can answer those kind of concerns. If that isn’t practical, there are many people/resources out here who can assist you while you are transitioning into a new life

The hardest part? When he realizes you’re serious, he will, as he has done in the past, tell you he’s going to change. He will become a different person overnight. But he won’t change, and the overnight transformation will not last.

If you’re still asking yourself, “what if he really does change?”, then remind yourself that he will then have ample opportunity to prove it to you, to put aside his apathy, and to work to win you back.

(But honestly, when talking about guys who don’t know how to use a bathroom, I can’t imagine why you’d ever want him back.)

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Amy October 17, 2012 at 8:29 am

Dear letter writer:
I spent 18 years in the kind of life you describe, more or less. My ex husband was dry for many of those years but was unable to connect with me emotionally and unwilling to connect with me physically. I allowed my self-esteem to be decimated by my marriage and even though he really did try to make things work, it wasn’t the right relationship for either of us. It took me a long time to relinquish my guilt and admit that I needed to leave.

He and I are both happier people now. I freed him to lead the kind of life he wanted. I freed myself to live the kind of life I wanted! However, I carried the stones from that marriage into my new relationships and ended up building the same kind of house – twice. If you leave (and I hope you do) then make sure to do great things for yourself, like joining Al-Anon or another support group, and going to therapy or counseling so you can understand why you made the choices you did and learn how to make new ones.

You really do deserve so much better in a relationship than you have with your husband! And he deserves a life of sobriety and healing, which I hope he will find. But the truth is you can’t fix or change him. You can only change yourself.

Take gentle care,
Amy

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Brooke October 17, 2012 at 8:29 am

Maybe someone’s already asked this in the comments, but I’d ask the LW: Do you actually love this man? He hasn’t shown any love for you, that’s obvious. But do YOU love HIM? I’m not hearing that from your end, either, and you know … if you don’t love someone, that’s enough to go. You made a mistake, but now you can fix this. Please do it for yourself!

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Jamie Stanek via Facebook October 17, 2012 at 8:07 am

I’m not going to lay any blame on the writer of this tortured letter. I only hope and pray, she can escape this situation and learn from it to find the happiness she deserves and God wants for all of us. Good luck, and Godspeed.

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Sue October 17, 2012 at 7:08 am

Thank you for telling it like it really is. I was married to an alcoholic for 26yrs. Two months before our 25th wedding anniversary, he left to go “find happiness”…in the bottom of a bottle and in the arms of the other woman he met at Happy Hour. Abandoned a wife and 3 teenagers. He wouldn’t admit he was an alcoholic and did not want to be controlled. Four months before he left, I finally took that first step and went to an Al-Anon mtg…best thing I ever did for myself. Life has been hard but I also realize that if he never left, I would have stayed living like that for a long time because I was afraid of change. I didn’t cause it, can’t cure it, and can’t control it but I sure contributed to the chaos for way too long. Now I’m trusting in God’s plan for me and my kids.

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Michael Davis October 17, 2012 at 7:02 am

I want to reply as a recovering alcoholic whose wife has been tough with me. Please do it, get tough and as John said, go get you some life. Maybe he’ll get serious and get better, but maybe he won’t. You have to stand your ground because you deserve better. I am so grateful for my wife and her unwillingness to put up with my alcoholism. We have a truly wonderful and blessed life now and I owe it to her being tough with me. Trust me, you deserve better and if your husband doesn’t see it that way, then so be it. Get out there and improve YOUR life!!

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Don Rappe October 17, 2012 at 12:28 am

Most of us alcoholics also suffer from depression and other mental illness. This just means there is more to the problem than just the bottle. It doesn’t make the problem less. Al-Anon is likely to be helpful, but don’t let it stand in the way of leaving his useless ass behind. Many men have to lose three or four wives before they get the message, if ever.

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Elizabeth October 17, 2012 at 10:02 pm

This. Every alcoholic I know has other behavioral or mental issues, too. It doesn’t matter which came first, chicken or egg. Nothing should stand in her way.

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